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ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6141 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian
| Message 25 of 65 07 January 2010 at 9:52pm | IP Logged |
doviende wrote:
I also took a look through the list of 2000 common words that someone pointed me to. It has 2000 words, and each word has one or more example sentences made of of fairly easy words. It's ideal material for flashcards. I haven't gone through it methodically, since it's alphabetical and I find that really annoying. Instead, I just scroll through until something catches my eye. I also sometimes paste large chunks of it into google translate, just to see if there are some interesting words that I'd like to learn. |
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Where did you find this list of the 2000 most common words? Despite it being alphabetically organized, it sounds fairly useful. Is there a link?
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| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5555 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona
| Message 26 of 65 10 January 2010 at 10:02am | IP Logged |
doviende wrote:
Next on my list is some serious L-R time, like multiple hours per day if I can. I'm curious to see if this can produce the miraculous benefits that have been claimed. |
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Good luck with listening-reading in Swedish Doviende. Your knowledge of German will definitely help here, but getting to grips with those vowel sounds is a tricky one to perfect in Swedish for sure. I'm currently trying to fit in some serious L-R time for German right now, and am very curious to see what happens after 40 hours of NEW audio/text too...
I think the 10 lesson Pimsleur intro to Swedish is a great little starter. I breezed through it a while back, in prep for a weekend of partying with friends and family over in Stockholm, and it worked like a charm. Couldn't say much apart from a handful of survival phrases of course, but what I did know helped me to successfully ask for directions and win several beers from new-found friends as well as compliments from the ladies. Result!
Edited by Teango on 12 January 2010 at 11:02pm
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| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5985 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese
| Message 27 of 65 22 January 2010 at 1:17pm | IP Logged |
Here's a link to the word list: Alfabetisk lista över samtliga specifikationer
I'm actually using that list right now to make some new anki cards. Regarding that, I have a question for any Swedish speakers. I'm looking at this example sentence "Det är alldeles för dyrt.", which is a bit confusing to me. Could someone please give me some more examples that use "alldeles" and some that use this type of "för X" where X is an adjective? The literal translation of the sentence seems to be "It is quite for expensive", although google translate gives me "It's way too expensive", which sounds colloquial enough to be correct. More related examples would be helpful, thanks :)
Lately I'm getting a lot more phrases that I hear on TV, but there are still a lot that I miss completely. L-R has been a bit frustrating with The Hobbit because I'm not getting that much, although I can still follow the story. I honestly haven't put that much time into it though, but I'm going to pause for a little while and just work on other things and then come back to it later.
UPDATE: found another related sentence: "Skynda dig! Annars kommer du för sent."...still looking for more.
Edited by doviende on 22 January 2010 at 2:20pm
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| Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5520 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish*
| Message 28 of 65 22 January 2010 at 1:47pm | IP Logged |
You know that you don't have to type it in manually, right? Just paste into Excel, reformat and import in Anki.
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| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5985 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese
| Message 29 of 65 22 January 2010 at 2:01pm | IP Logged |
That's a good idea...although I'm only choosing certain sentences to add to Anki. As I go through the list, I'm investigating each entry and trying to learn the concepts within it. After I think I've figured it out, then I add it into Anki to review it. Sometimes I just use the entries as a starting point for that vocab word, and I end up finding a different example sentence that gets added to Anki.
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magister Pro Member United States Joined 6602 days ago 346 posts - 421 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Turkish, Irish Personal Language Map
| Message 30 of 65 22 January 2010 at 5:32pm | IP Logged |
doviende wrote:
have a question for any Swedish speakers. I'm looking at this example sentence "Det är alldeles för dyrt.", which is a bit confusing to me. Could someone please give me some more examples that use "alldeles" and some that use this type of "för X" where X is an adjective? The literal translation of the sentence seems to be "It is quite for expensive", although google translate gives me "It's way too expensive", which sounds colloquial enough to be correct. More related examples would be helpful, thanks :) |
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Doviende,
I'm no Swedish speaker, but I'm a Norwegian learner. För indeed means "too" (in any register -- not just colloquially).
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| aloysius Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6239 days ago 226 posts - 291 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, German Studies: French, Greek, Italian, Russian
| Message 31 of 65 23 January 2010 at 10:15am | IP Logged |
doviende wrote:
I'm looking at this example sentence "Det är alldeles för dyrt.", which is a bit confusing to me. Could someone please give me some more examples that use "alldeles" and some that use this type of "för X" where X is an adjective? The literal translation of the sentence seems to be "It is quite for expensive", although google translate gives me "It's way too expensive", which sounds colloquial enough to be correct. More related examples would be helpful, thanks :)
UPDATE: found another related sentence: "Skynda dig! Annars kommer du för sent."...still looking for more. |
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Yes, it is not all that confusing. The sentence means "It's far too expensive" or "Es ist ganz zu teuer" in German. So you can translate word for word: alldeles = ganz, för = zu. Also: too late, zu spät.
"Hon är alldeles ensam" - "She's all alone", "Sie ist ganz allein".
"Är du alldeles/fullkomligt/fullständigt tokig/galen?" - "Are you completely mad?, "Bist du ganz verrückt?".
Edited by aloysius on 23 January 2010 at 11:03am
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| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5985 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese
| Message 32 of 65 23 January 2010 at 10:36am | IP Logged |
ya, I was just getting distracted by the relationship between för and für, but it makes more sense now.
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