Rikyu-san Diglot Senior Member Denmark Joined 5525 days ago 213 posts - 413 votes Speaks: Danish*, English Studies: German, French
| Message 9 of 25 09 April 2010 at 3:13am | IP Logged |
These videos are really helpful to me. Thank you very much for your time in putting them together.
I have just picked up TY Swedish and TY French from a local library (out of curiosity and based on yours and Jeff Lindquist's recommendations) but I didn't know how to make the best use of them.
Now I do, thanks to you.
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laoshu505000 Senior Member United States Joined 5813 days ago 121 posts - 232 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 10 of 25 09 April 2010 at 8:24pm | IP Logged |
delta910 wrote:
First off, great videos Moses. I always enjoy watching your videos and they're great to boost my motivation. Keep
it up!
Ok, maybe it's me but I'm somewhat confused with the FLR technique. It seems as though that right when one
begins a language one should right away create and learn these phrases you have put up to use in a
conversation, but how can one do that when one knows nothing in the language or very little of that language? It
seems as though it is more of a way to do output rather than input and is more intended for learners to use
when they are at a higher level.
Also, when talking about key words in a text, at the beginning for a new learner of that language, wouldn't all of
the words of that dialogue be considered key words since one has no to little vocabulary and needs words to
build off from?
It seems you are wanting to do output before you have any input of that language or use that language before
one has knowledge or a large vocabulary of that language. Also, when speaking to a native speaker, one just
can't expect to know some key phrases and anticipate what a native will say; furthermore, they may ask you one
of those questions and you'll give the answer but then they'll come with another question that you haven't
"rehearsed" and you'll be caught with your pants down with very very limited vocabulary with nothing else to
help you.
Is this technique intended for right out of the box learners with now knowledge of that language, or is it more of
a method for people to use later on in their learning to help strike up a conversation with natives as output?
I'm curious about your thoughts Moses.
Thanks!
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Hey there,
As I promised, I've made a video in response to your question.
Moses McCormick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0P61lHJg9Y
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ChristopherB Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6313 days ago 851 posts - 1074 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, German, French
| Message 11 of 25 13 April 2010 at 6:25am | IP Logged |
Moses, if you have the time for a video detailing your skills in each language, it would be very interesting to see.
By chance, have you seen Professor Arguelles' charts for his languages? .
http://www.foreignlanguageexpertise.com/about.html#lrt
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mentatkgs Triglot Newbie Brazil onhowtolearn.bl Joined 5500 days ago 9 posts - 11 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, Japanese Studies: French
| Message 12 of 25 14 April 2010 at 7:43pm | IP Logged |
Hello, I'm willing to record these questions and answers in Portuguese (Brazilian here)
in trade of French, Japanese, Italian, Arab, Chinese or Russian Recordings and
transcripts. Who is up the job?
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Akao aka FailArtist Senior Member United States Joined 5333 days ago 315 posts - 347 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Toki Pona
| Message 13 of 25 27 April 2010 at 4:56am | IP Logged |
Thank you for inspiring me to learn languages, it has been extremely beneficial to many
areas of my life.
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Deji Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5437 days ago 116 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Hindi, Bengali
| Message 14 of 25 02 May 2010 at 7:32pm | IP Logged |
These techniques are very helpful even if you are NOT a beginner. Especially if you have been studying the
language but want to practice thinking--and talking-- on your feet. Either alone or with a fellow learner, or a
native--whoever you can get.
As language learners, on some level, "we will always be caught with our pants down" How true is that!!
I would like to trade English or French for Bengali. Of course, if you're reading this in English, you probably don't
need an English recording!
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Luai_lashire Diglot Senior Member United States luai-lashire.deviant Joined 5825 days ago 384 posts - 560 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto Studies: Japanese, French
| Message 15 of 25 03 May 2010 at 3:28am | IP Logged |
Moses, it's interesting that you say you don't mind getting the grammar wrong in your sentences at first, because
you'll learn to correct yourself later; I've often heard from people that they feel it's "dangerous" to produce output
that might be wrong because it gets stuck in your head in the wrong form and it's hard to replace it with the right
form later. Is there anything special you do to combat this, or is it just not a problem for you?
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noriyuki_nomura Bilingual Octoglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 5337 days ago 304 posts - 465 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin*, Japanese, FrenchC2, GermanC2, ItalianC1, SpanishB2, DutchB1 Studies: TurkishA1, Korean
| Message 16 of 25 03 May 2010 at 9:27am | IP Logged |
I definitely agree with Moses regarding the list of questions that we should know how to answer when it comes to language learning!
Edited by noriyuki_nomura on 03 May 2010 at 9:34am
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