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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5060 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes  Speaks: Russian* | Message 89 of 162 16 March 2012 at 11:44am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Irish is quite popular abroad now, isn't it? Will they be glad to hear a Russian speaking irish? The grammar seems very difficult for me, the vocabulary is not, the pronunciation of consonants is easy, but long and short vowels are difficult while speaking, although easy to pronounce separately. In general the pronunciation is much easier than that English. The main problem are the dialects and the standart language. What do other people in Ireland think of Irish? Edited by Марк on 16 March 2012 at 11:46am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| aodhanc Diglot Groupie Iceland Joined 6264 days ago 92 posts - 130 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish | Message 90 of 162 16 March 2012 at 12:46pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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A Russian speaking Irish would of course be welcome, but people's main reaction would be
complete surprise. It would be similar to a Japanese person speaking Basque. As for Irish dialects, there is not that much difference between them. Ireland being a small country, with a small number of Irish speakers, it means only slight differences in pronunciation. Munster Irish is the standard version taught in schools and used for official purposes. Connacht Irish is very similar to that version, with Ulster (Donegal) Irish being more distant, but not enough to cause any significant problem in communication. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5060 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 91 of 162 16 March 2012 at 12:52pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Sorry, I'll repeat my question, what do English monoglots think of Irish in Ireland?
Do they approve its status, do they think it is just a waste of money to support it, do they value the ability to speak it? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5060 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 92 of 162 16 March 2012 at 1:59pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Do you believe them? All the Ukrainian revival is built on oppressing of Russian. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| aodhanc Diglot Groupie Iceland Joined 6264 days ago 92 posts - 130 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish | Message 93 of 162 16 March 2012 at 2:40pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I would say that the attitude of most Irish people towards the language is indifference. In theory, they would like to preserve it, but in reality they don't really do anything about it. If you ask Irish people, do you want to keep Irish as an official language? 99% would probably say yes. But in practice, they don't use it or promote it. It is expensive.... the government spends about EUR500m per year on the Irish language in education / official documents / media etc. Some people think that money could be better spend on other things. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5060 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 94 of 162 16 March 2012 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I think there is an easy way to learn Irish for a child now. They can watch cartoons in
Irish on TG4. They can pick up a lot of things like that. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7160 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 95 of 162 16 March 2012 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
*facepalm* 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5060 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 96 of 162 16 March 2012 at 7:20pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
You think that Ukrainian was heavily oppressed in the Soviet Union too? You have some arguments? why don't express them? Anyway this statement is nonsense. The Ukrainian language was supported that time. Edited by Марк on 16 March 2012 at 7:36pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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