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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6436 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes  Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 1 of 5 01 June 2010 at 12:53pm | IP Logged | ||||||
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Time for yet another collaborative thread. There is a lot on L-R written on this forum, and it's scattered all over the place. This is part of the list of resources list.
Core URLs L-R: the most important passages. Atamagaii's collection of the key forum posts related to L-R. Listening-Reading system. The thread which kicked it all off. Offsite links to a condensed version of the above thread. !Listening-Reading thread posts by siomotteikiru (and atamagaii). Posts on specific aspects of L-R L-R and the active phase. L-R: Intensity, evaporation, gist. Addressing what it takes to keep an L-R'd language from 'evaporating'. Quick sketches of some basics These are useful, but incomplete; for a more condensed quick start, read the first post of the Listening-Reading system. Splog's youtube video on L-R, extensive listening, and the importance of enjoying what you listen to. http://learnanylanguage.wikia.com/wiki/Listening-Reading_Met hod Variations Reading while listening. A thread about a nifty monolingual web-based tool, which highlights short phrases in prepared texts as the corresponding audio is played. Tuning and Testing Listening-Reading. Adaptations of L-R, gained through personal experience. The New R-L-R method deals with reading in your target language, ignoring pronunciation. It's useful, but not recommended for any language you care about pronouncing. "The Best Method Ever". Carefully reading and comparing closely related languages before listening to the audio. The usual caveats about the dangers of reading before listening apply, but it's certainly useful. Misc Most efficient way to spend 120 hours. Mainly a discussion about L-R. The trouble with language textbooks. Atamagaii outlines why textbooks are inefficient. Passive listening and L-R. L-R: Natural listening. Interesting questions, not much resolution. L-R experts: isn't it strange?. This thread raises the question of why movies with subtitles are so much less effective than L-R. Modified LR method with Japanese. Speculation on using RTK too. Posts with more heat than light These are only here for completeness; they're probably not worth reading. On L-R. A bit of L-R description, a lot of quibbling. Learning logs Work in progress... M. Medialis has had some interesting results with a non-intensive version of L-R. He wrote the following in January, 2010.
Fighting Windmills. Teango jumped into Spanish, recognizing 90% of words in unknown texts in a few days. He did some 10+ hour days, and some much more relaxed ones. Polish: another attempt. I didn't manage intensity comparable to Teango's. I learned a lot, but could have done a lot better. It was a more focused followup to my initial dabbling with Polish L-R. Luke: Learning French Fast. Luke used a mixture of methods, including some L-R. Kealist's Mandarin log. General resources MarcoDiAngelo's thread proposing making copyright-free parallel texts and a library of such texts. The list of resources list, especially the online bilingual texts and list of free, legal audiobooks. Kealist's Mandarin resources. Japanese resources Atamagaii's Japanese links. Be careful with copyright; most of the links are ok. Sheetz has collected some amazing resources, with Japanese audiobooks, often with transcripts, translations, and even parallel texts. It can be found on koohii.com, rtkwiki and this forum; the last also contains his log. The rtkwiki links seem to be the most recently updated. Edited by Volte on 29 June 2010 at 6:20pm 26 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||
| Hashimi Senior Member Oman Joined 6256 days ago 362 posts - 529 votes Speaks: Arabic (Written)* Studies: English, Japanese | Message 2 of 5 04 June 2010 at 12:42pm | IP Logged | ||||||
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Great job, Volte. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6436 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 3 of 5 04 June 2010 at 2:21pm | IP Logged | ||||||
Thanks; I didn't do most of the work. Most of the credit really belongs to atamagaii, splog, M. Medialis, MarcoDiAngelo, Teango, and everyone else who's done things with L-R.
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6436 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 4 of 5 07 June 2010 at 5:03am | IP Logged | ||||||
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MarcoDiAngelo pointed out that I'd neglected to include the Q&A session about L-R and the active phase, and was kind enough to find the link to it.
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6436 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 5 of 5 29 June 2010 at 6:26pm | IP Logged | ||||||
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At atamagaii's suggestion, I've added:
New Online Tool: Reading-while-Listening http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=21591&PN=1 Most efficient way to spend 120 hours http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=21258&PN=1 1 person has voted this message useful |
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