administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7401 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map
| Message 9 of 28 20 February 2006 at 10:48pm | IP Logged |
patuco wrote:
administrator wrote:
They are Italian crime novels... |
|
|
Are they original works? Where did you get them from? Thanks. |
|
|
Yes they are original works written in Italian by Italian writers. I get them from Italy and from www.ibs.it
1 person has voted this message useful
|
patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7040 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 10 of 28 21 February 2006 at 6:06am | IP Logged |
Thanks for the link. Is their site secure? Have you had any problems with them?
1 person has voted this message useful
|
administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7401 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map
| Message 11 of 28 21 February 2006 at 7:23am | IP Logged |
patuco wrote:
Thanks for the link. Is their site secure? Have you had any problems with them? |
|
|
This is discussed here.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7040 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 12 of 28 22 February 2006 at 5:58am | IP Logged |
Sorry, didn't make the connection between your original link and the other thread.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7401 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map
| Message 13 of 28 23 February 2006 at 6:22am | IP Logged |
I compiled all the words and expressions I had written down as unknown/unclear in my first two Italian books this morning. This gave a ratio of 1.23 word per page on average. I'll start translating them and printing the flash cards as soon as I am over with the next book.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7401 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map
| Message 14 of 28 26 February 2006 at 1:05am | IP Logged |
This is proving a lot of work - more than I anticipated! But thanks to the flu I am on track and already half way trough next week's book.
Since I was mostly sitting at a table to read this one I could write down entire phrases to provide for more context for the words or turn of phrases I wanted to learn. Below you see both sides of my vocabulary notes for this book, with the book in the center. Perhaps it will inspire somebody!
This is only half the work, I'll have to translate every expression, make flash cards and learn them. But as they say in Italy, the long voyage to Rome begins with the first step.
2 persons have voted this message useful
|
Kubelek Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland chomikuj.pl/Kuba_wal Joined 6877 days ago 415 posts - 528 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishC2, French, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 15 of 28 27 February 2006 at 8:37pm | IP Logged |
What do you do next? Do you drill on those words and expressions until you have them memorized and on command, or just get yourself familiar with them adding them to your passive vocabulary and go on?
Do you make a serious effort to learn names of less commmon trees, herbs or any specialized vocabulary?
Don't you get intimidated by the stack that just keep on growing in front of you with every book you read? :) Do
I sure do, I somehow can't get below that one-word-per-page rate.
Do you aim for perfect comprehension of Poe-Wilde-Joyce type of books as well - lots of strictly literary language?
Sorry, lots of questions. You can blame it on me if you don't read your next book on time.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7401 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map
| Message 16 of 28 28 February 2006 at 12:09am | IP Logged |
Kubelek wrote:
What do you do next? Do you drill on those words and expressions until you have them memorized and on command, or just get yourself familiar with them adding them to your passive vocabulary and go on? |
|
|
Well for the moment I still have to translate the expressions I have already entered in my computer. Then I'll make the flash cards and the idea is not only to add these words to my passive vocabulary, but to be able to add as many as possible to my active vocabulary. I must say that I would not have such an ambitious goal for Russian, but for Italian I feel it may be possible.
Kubelek wrote:
Do you make a serious effort to learn names of less commmon trees, herbs or any specialized vocabulary? |
|
|
Oh yes, cookbooks are full of herbs! I don't mean to say that one should learn such vocabulary for all target languages at all stages, but where I want to go with my Italian, I need them.
Kubelek wrote:
Don't you get intimidated by the stack that just keep on growing in front of you with every book you read? :) |
|
|
Well yes, but Italian words are rather easy to learn compared to Russian ones for instance. I'll probably have a stack of 1500 flash cards or so and it will be divided in at least 3 stacks for mere practicality.
Kubelek wrote:
I somehow can't get below that one-word-per-page rate. |
|
|
That's what I do in a regular English novel, it's really not so bad!
Kubelek wrote:
Do you aim for perfect comprehension of Poe-Wilde-Joyce type of books as well - lots of strictly literary language? |
|
|
Nope. I am reading 'Gialli' right now, which are popular novels one would find in the 'Crime' or 'Thrillers' section in an American bookshop. They do have a large vocabulary but nothing like Joyce or Poe.
Kubelek wrote:
Sorry, lots of questions. You can blame it on me if you don't read your next book on time.
|
|
|
You don't worry, I am almost one book ahead this week!
1 person has voted this message useful
|