oceankyle Newbie United States Joined 5244 days ago 28 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 1 of 19 25 July 2010 at 4:50am | IP Logged |
So I started using Spanish with pimsleurs which I like a lot for my car ride. Then I
read on here how good Assimil is so I bought it. I just finished Unit 1 of Pimsleurs
and decided to take a break from that and do Assimil.
1) Pimsleurs is Latin American (which is what I would rather know) and Assimil is
Spain, is it ok to learn these two simultaneously? From what I've read on here there is
very little difference, just in some pronunciation.
2) I've read on here that Assimil can be used in a car but I don't get how. My commute
is 25 minutes and the Lessons are only a couple minutes long, plus if you don't have
the book you aren't figuring out what anything means, just learning how to say the
words (I think, could be doing something wrong?).
3) Would it be alright to do these programs at the same time instead of taking a break
from one and going to the other like I am doing now. For example. On my commutes
continue to work on Pimsleur Lessons, but when I'm bored at work read Assimil and
listen to those lessons?
4) I found a thread on this that I'm working through but how many Assimil Lessons can I
do a day? A lot of what's in it early is familiar from Pimsleurs and a course I took in
college. I could probably do lessons 4-10 tomorrow.
I'm not sure exactly how to use Assimil yet but found a good thread on that I am also
reading through.
Thanks for any advice.
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eumiro Bilingual Octoglot Groupie Germany Joined 5277 days ago 74 posts - 102 votes Speaks: Czech*, Slovak*, French, English, German, Polish, Spanish, Russian Studies: Italian, Hungarian
| Message 2 of 19 25 July 2010 at 10:35pm | IP Logged |
2.) While you actually learn from Pimsleur just by listening (and repeating it), the Assimil audio will not let you advance if you listen to it without reading the book. Maybe you could use it later to review (or relisten) the lessons, which you have already done. So if you are after the lesson 20 or 25, you can relisten all the previous lessons and try to follow them and immerse more into the language.
3.) I think it's OK to use both. Maybe not that many words will be new to you if you have already learned them in the other method before ;-)
4.) If you are not a total beginner (and after a few Pimsleur lessons you are not), you can do more lessons in the first days. However make sure you entirely understood everything in it and you did all exercices correctly.
Enjoy!
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johntm93 Senior Member United States Joined 5330 days ago 587 posts - 746 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 3 of 19 26 July 2010 at 2:39am | IP Logged |
You should be fine working on both types of Spanish.
In case you were wondering how to use Assimil, here's the instructions from Dutch With Ease (which have the most complete instructions, from what I hear):
How to use Assimil from the Dutch With Ease edition. Replace Dutch
with your target language and English with the book's base language.
Book + audio:
1. Listen to the text with the book closed. It does not matter if you
do not understand what is said. You will gain a general impression of
the sounds, hearing the pronunciation without being influenced by the
spelling.
2. Listen to the recording a second time while looking at the English
translation.
3. Read the Dutch text aloud (with the aid of the phonetic transcription
if necessary). Be sure you understand the meaning of each sentence,
comparing it with the translation as required.
4. Now read the Dutch text again, but this time without looking at
the translation.
5. Listen to the recording twice, once while looking at the English
translation, and once while looking at the Dutch text.
6. Listen to the recording again with the book closed. At this point
you should understand what is being said.
7. Listen to the recording once more. Stop the machine after each
sentence, and try to repeat it aloud.
8. Carefully read the comments several times. Examine the Dutch
sentences beign explained. These notes are very important.
9. Read the exercises. Repeat each sentence several times. The
exercises review material from the current lesson and from
preceding lessons. If you have forgotten certain words, consult the
English translation.
10. Examine the examples of sentence structure. They show how words
and phrases are combined in Dutch, which is not always the same as
in English.
Tweak it as you will, I follow this pretty closely but I like to shadow it when I'm listening to the audio after the first time.
Use the search method on here to find other members' methods of using it.
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oceankyle Newbie United States Joined 5244 days ago 28 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 4 of 19 30 July 2010 at 12:41am | IP Logged |
Do you do an active and a passive phase?
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johntm93 Senior Member United States Joined 5330 days ago 587 posts - 746 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 5 of 19 30 July 2010 at 4:36am | IP Logged |
oceankyle wrote:
Do you do an active and a passive phase? |
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Yes, the first 50 are passive, the rest are active. Even during the passive, it's quite amazing how much you'll learn.
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oceankyle Newbie United States Joined 5244 days ago 28 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 6 of 19 30 July 2010 at 4:45am | IP Logged |
Just clarifying, those directions are what you do for active? I'm not quite getting it,
need to re-read my introduction again.
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Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7106 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French
| Message 7 of 19 30 July 2010 at 9:23am | IP Logged |
oceankyle wrote:
Just clarifying, those directions are what you do for active? I'm not quite getting it, need to re-read my introduction again. |
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No those are the instructions for the Passive Wave. These are instructions for the Active Wave (also lifted from Dutch with Ease and edited for learning Spanish from English):
Assimil - Active Wave
1. Read the lesson, repeating each sentence once. If you have the recordings, listen to them carefully.
2. Cover the Spanish text and try to reconstruct it, looking only at the English sentences. Make an effort to do this both out loud and in writing. This is the most important part of the second wave!
3. After you have finished, uncover the Spanish text and carefully correct any errors you have made.
Edited by Andy E on 30 July 2010 at 9:23am
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oceankyle Newbie United States Joined 5244 days ago 28 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 8 of 19 30 July 2010 at 3:10pm | IP Logged |
Thanks a ton, the version I have more or less doesn't have instruction.
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