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Noriyuki’s TAC 2011 - IJ Dutch Team | ||
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| J S Newbie Netherlands Joined 5098 days ago 25 posts - 31 votes Studies: Irish, English* Studies: French, Dutch | Message 10 of 52 23 December 2010 at 12:26pm | IP Logged | ||
Hi, Teammate! I am also a beginner in Dutch, so hopefully we will progress together. I am curious how and why you chose these textbooks? I think both Lextra and Langenscheidts are available at the library here, along with many other choices, and I simply didn't know how to chose one to start with. Let me know what you recommend. Cheers, J.S. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| noriyuki_nomura Bilingual Octoglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 5333 days ago 304 posts - 465 votes  Speaks: English*, Mandarin*, Japanese, FrenchC2, GermanC2, ItalianC1, SpanishB2, DutchB1 Studies: TurkishA1, Korean | Message 11 of 52 23 December 2010 at 1:00pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hoi J S, welcome to the team!!! :)
As I have both, and have glanced through them quickly, I would go for Lextra Sprachkurs especially when you are also a beginner like me. :) Somehow, I feel that the 'introductory' level into the language is much easier if one uses Lextra, since the dialogues are usually shorter, and with topics that revolve around 'first contacts', 'greetings', which are perhaps much better than the Langenscheidts programmes. I think the Langenscheidts courses are great, as they offer dialogues that are longer (and more difficult), and might be more suitable/accessible after we are done with the Lextra Sprachkurs. :) By the way, where do u live? Does your library offer CDs to the Lextra and Langenscheidts courses?
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| J S Newbie Netherlands Joined 5098 days ago 25 posts - 31 votes Studies: Irish, English* Studies: French, Dutch | Message 12 of 52 23 December 2010 at 6:57pm | IP Logged | ||
I am in central Amsterdam. The Centrale Bibliotheek has an diverse collection of materials for learners, and the librarians are keen to help anyone interested in learning Dutch. When I next visit, I will check for the CDs and have a closer look at the available materials. Cheers, J.S. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5840 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 13 of 52 23 December 2010 at 7:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hi Noriyuki!
It's a good idea to do L3 via L2 - learning by using German textbooks. Here in Germany the Lextra textbooks can only be bought inclusive the audio-CDs. It's a kind of package which they sell for - I think - 22 euros. I quit Lextra Turkish because I found it irritating that there are no strict and complete vocabulary lists per unit. Succes met jouw studie Nederlands! Yes, I could have anwered the je/jij question as well. The same rule is applicable with we/wij. Beispiele: We gaan eten vanavond. = Wir gehen heute Abend essen. (unbetont) Gaan wij eten of jullie? = Gehen wir essen oder ihr? (mit Betonung) Fasulye Edited by Fasulye on 23 December 2010 at 7:49pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| noriyuki_nomura Bilingual Octoglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 5333 days ago 304 posts - 465 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin*, Japanese, FrenchC2, GermanC2, ItalianC1, SpanishB2, DutchB1 Studies: TurkishA1, Korean | Message 14 of 52 23 December 2010 at 10:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hoi Fasulye, dank je! I hope that I can speak both Dutch and German with you one day over Skype :)
Thanks for sharing with us regarding the Lextra Sprachkurs Tuerkisch, because yesterday after work, I actually went to Orell Fuessli, a local bookstore in Zurich, where I was 'loitering' at the language section (surprise!) of the bookstore for quite awhile. I had actually wanted to buy the Lextra Sprachkurs Tuerkisch, and as the set was unwrapped, I did not have the chance to peep into its content. Plus, the bookstore here is selling it for CHF 44, which is about Euro 35, hence, I decided not to buy it in the end. Perhaps I might consider Assimil Tuerkisch instead....and www.amazon.de Well, as for today, I did activities for Dutch, French and Italian: Dutch I listened and read out loud the dialogues of the Dutch lessons from yesterday, and went through some conjugations: To be Ik ben je bent/u bent hij/ze/het is we zijn jullie zijn ze zijn To work Ik werk Je werkt Hij/ze/het werkt we werken jullie werken ze werken To call Ik heet Je heet Hij/ze/het heet We heten Jullie heten Ze heten And the following phrases: Hoe heet je? Ben jij...? Hoelang blijf je in...? Ik heet.. Ik ben... Ik kom uit Dit is... Italian I listened several times to the CD of lesson 8 of the Viaggio nell'Italiano textbook. It's a 10 minute-conversation between two Italians regarding their opinion on the Italian novel "io non ho paura" from the author, Niccolo Ammaniti. And I wrote down words that I did not understand and verified them in my electronic dictionary. The words are: Coinvolgente --- absorbing/engrossing Incalzante --- persisting La pentola --- the pot (another context: una pentola di = a potful of) strappare --- to pull out (which reminds me of the french verb "arracher") straparlare --- to rave/talk nonsense cognizione --- awareness slancio --- energy, style, enthusiasm colpire --- hit/strike I will continue to listen to the dialogue tonight. French I read 50 pages of the French novel "Moka" by Tatiana de Rosnay during my commute to work today. Edited by noriyuki_nomura on 24 December 2010 at 11:17am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Shokhn Newbie Australia Joined 5086 days ago 11 posts - 11 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Dutch, Yiddish, Modern Hebrew | Message 15 of 52 23 December 2010 at 10:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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In English, we also have stressed vs unstressed pronouns. We just don't write them.
How are ya goin? (From my Australian perspective) How are YOU going? What's e up to? (What's HE up to?) So, for me it was an instantly recognizable feature. This and many others... 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| noriyuki_nomura Bilingual Octoglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 5333 days ago 304 posts - 465 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin*, Japanese, FrenchC2, GermanC2, ItalianC1, SpanishB2, DutchB1 Studies: TurkishA1, Korean | Message 16 of 52 25 December 2010 at 12:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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I am glad that I just had to work till 13h yesterday, and by the time I reached the supermarket, it was packed with people shopping last minute for their groceries. And the trains were all fully packed and delayed, perhaps due to the crowd and heavy snowfall...
Anyway, I made the following progress: Italian I listened to the 10minute dialogue between two Italians on their opinion of the novel "Io non ho paura" several times again, and I am pleased that, the more I listened to it, the more/better I understand the conversation. I continued to read out the script of the conversation. Dutch I am in Chapter 2 of the text Lextra Sprachkurs. Now, the conversation is slightly longer compared to that of Chapter 1, and certainly more interesting. It describes a scene where A introduces a newcomer to the company to colleague B. I wish I could say in Dutch "ik spreek vloeiend Nederlands en Engels, maar ook Spaans, etc" I will continue to read out loud the dialogues, listen to the dialogues a few more times, and perhaps write them down. French I am now on page 120 of the novel "Moka" by Tatiana de Rosnay. I like the way how the author described the emotions of the mother, whose son was in coma after being run over by a hit-and-run driver. It's definitely a good story. Korean I have been listening to the dialogue of in my textbook dekiru Kankokugo Beginner level 2. I will write out the dialogues and new words that I encounter. Edited by noriyuki_nomura on 25 December 2010 at 1:37pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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