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TAC 2011 (Team ÇÜ): The Continuing Saga | ||
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| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5693 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes  Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 65 of 135 16 April 2011 at 9:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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(written 28 March 2011)
Right now, the thing at the front of my mind is the trip I made yesterday to my favorite bookstore here in upstate New York. They always have an amazing array of language books, and this time was no exception. I got a whole pile of books. I don't have all of them with me at the moment, but I'll try to remember them: - a huge, awesome-looking book by Allan B. Goldenthal called "Think Chinese, Speak Chinese" which includes an explanation of four different romanization systems and a special section on French-to-Chinese, Spanish-to-Chinese, and German-to-Chinese "sound orientation." - a hanzi-writing practice book called "Practical Chinese Reader I & II: Writing Workbook" (Traditional Character Edition). - four small books from a series which publishes parallel-text versions of classic Chinese literature, plays and poetry (the original Chinese on the left-hand page, the English translation on the right). - TY Modern Persian. - the FSI Spanish textbook. - a humorous guide to "Erfolg" ("success"), written in German with cartoons to illlustrate various situations you might find yourself in. (For instance: if you're at a friend's house and there are many white mice running around the floor, this does not necessarily mean your friend is an animal lover! Refrain from commenting on the mice, and escape as soon as possible.) - a small photo-book of Corsica, from France in probably the 1940s, with breathtakingly beautiful photographs of the island. - a practical French phrasebook as a source of specialized vocab for my trip this summer. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Meelämmchen Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5083 days ago 214 posts - 249 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Modern Hebrew | Message 66 of 135 17 April 2011 at 3:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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You're welcome! I don't know how long you have practised reading this text, but I would say your reading abilities are somewhere between C1 and C2, or C2 (I don't know these definitions too well). So maybe your goal of 'nativeness' is not so far away as you might think. Edited by Meelämmchen on 17 April 2011 at 3:16pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5693 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 67 of 135 17 April 2011 at 6:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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Danke sehr, Meelämmchen! For each of the texts, I read them one time aloud to practice before pressing "record," and then only recorded it once. I didn't want to "cheat." ;) I'm excited to hear that you think I'm doing so well! I really hope to keep improving my accent for as long as possible, but I expect I won't be able to sound really native until I've lived in Germany for a while.
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| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5693 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 68 of 135 17 April 2011 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | ||
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(I just made this post in another thread, in response to a question about good German music/movies, and then I realized it would be useful to me and any other German-learning readers of my log to keep all these links in one place. So, enjoy!)
My absolute favorite German film of all time is called "Knockin' on Heaven's Door". If you like crime/mystery shows, try the TV series "Tatort" (it broadcasts episodes from all over Germany, so you can get to know various parts of the country). Another amazing German film is "Das Leben der Anderen". There's a ton of amazing pop and rock music in German, of various types. Check out some of the following, they're my favorites. Herbert Grönemeyer (Alkohol, Halt mich, Flugzeuge im Bauch, Der Weg, Komet, Vollmond) Die Prinzen (Nie wieder Liebeslieder, Deutschland, Du mußt ein Schwein sein--that's an amazing video too, Ich schenk dir die Welt, Alles nur geklaut... I could go on forever with these guys!) Udo Lindenberg (Horizont, Alles klar auf der Andrea Doria, Ich lieb dich überhaupt nicht mehr, Wenn du durchhängst, Sonderzug nach Pankow) Wise Guys (Jetzt ist Sommer, Sing mal wieder, Mädchen lach doch mal, Wo der Pfeffer wächst, Nur für dich, Claudia) Xavier Naidoo (Dieser Weg, Was wir alleine nicht schaffen, Bevor du gehst, Abschied nehmen) Die Ärzte (Deine Schuld) Wir sind Helden (Nur ein Wort) Peter Fox (Alles neu) Rosenstolz (Die Zigarette danach) Pur (Hör gut zu, Ich lieb dich) Reinhard Mey (Über den Wolken, Musikanten sind in der Stadt, Geh und fang den Wind--a translation of Donovan's song "Catch the Wind") Karat (Über sieben Brücken) Die Puhdys (Alt wie ein Baum) Falco (Rock Me Amadeus, Jeanny, Der Kommissar) And then for a look back, there's always the Comedian Harmonists, with some simply exquisite a capella pieces (Auf Wiedersehn, Irgendwo auf der Welt, Mein kleiner grüner Kaktus, Schöne Isabella aus Kastillien, Ohne dich) Oh, and here's my favorite German actor, Jan Josef Liefers, singing a song called Wo bist du? Edited by Jinx on 17 April 2011 at 9:05pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6085 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 69 of 135 17 April 2011 at 11:29pm | IP Logged | ||
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hi Jinx,
seeing your list makes me want to hear more! Can I add Ich+Ich Pflaster to the list, and their chart-topper "Selben Stern" -- was brutalized on YouTube, so there's not a full version to that one -- is worth listening to, too. I see you have Grönemeyer -- THE Fußballhymne of all Zeit, dass sich was Dreht. (krieg ich Gänsehaut wenn ich "du fühlst du glaubst du fliegst" höre) His collaborators, Amadou & Mariam. And one that sticks out (sie sehen wirklich doof aus) is Die Da! by FANTA4, also worth adding to the list. (ich hatte damals so nen ohrwurm von diesem lied gehabt..klasse!) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5693 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 70 of 135 23 April 2011 at 11:19pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for the suggestions, Sunja! I always like discovering new German music. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5693 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish | Message 71 of 135 24 April 2011 at 9:03pm | IP Logged | ||
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This is a sort of "part two" to my post above... I just made this list of my favorite German movies in a PM, and then realized I might as well post it in my log as well, to share with readers who may get tired of so many of the greatest German movies being about WWII. Hopefully you can find a nice break from the war somewhere on this list!
…Good non-war German movies can be a little harder to find, though, due to many filmmakers' obsession with WWII. As a German Studies major, I've gone through literally years of being forced to learn about the war. I think it's important, but frankly I get kind of tired of it after a while, you know? That's why I love finding good non-war movies like "Knockin' on Heaven's Door." KOHD is a fun, lively, humorous action film, but with real emotional weight which I find quite moving. It's kind of like "The Blues Brothers," except with that serious emotional element as well. Really fantastic, and a movie that leaves you feeling good without being fluffy and shallow. Plus, I think the two main actors are fantastic. As for other non-war German movies... there's, let's see, "Nirgendwo in Afrika." I guess it's kind of a war movie, because it's about a Jewish family that has to escape Germany, but that's only at the very beginning. Then for the rest of the movie you see them adjusting to their new life in Africa. Really good film. "Der blaue Engel" is an old one with Marlene Dietrich, you've probably heard of it – really creepy and powerful in a disturbing way, but absolutely brilliant, with an incredible performance by the actor Emil Jannings. "Schindler's List" is of course a total war movie, but possibly THE greatest. If you don't already know it, it's a must-see... a real tear-jerker though. One of my top favorite German movies is, again, basically a war movie, but more focused on music, which makes it more enjoyable for me: "The Harmonists," a biopic (with a set of absolutely brilliant actors) about the singing group "The Comedian Harmonists" who were huge stars in Germany in the 20s-30s until they had to break up because half of the members were Jewish. The film is fantastically made, worth a watch if only to get a taste of the wonderful music they made. Let's see if I can remember some more... "Antibodies" is a great psychological thriller; "Fitzcarraldo" is a long and slow film by Herzog, but a unique and compelling experience if you get into it and go through the whole thing; "Das weiße Band" is a subtle creepy drama; "M" is a classic by Fritz Lang, featuring cinema's first serial killer and definitely worth watching; "Soul Kitchen" is a charming "serious-comedy" by the talented Turkish director Fatih Akin; "Zwartboek" is about half-and-half in Dutch and German and is definitely a war movie, but is about an AWESOME real-life Dutch singer who infiltrated the German side, a kick-ass lady who rides motorcycles and gets involved with spies, lots of fun. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5464 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian | Message 72 of 135 24 April 2011 at 11:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Off the top of my head, there's also "Lola Rennt", "Good Bye Lenin!", and "Der Himmel
uber Berlin" (sorry, not sure how to do umlauts from a Japanese computer). All fantastic post-war German films. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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