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| Adrean TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member France adrean83.wordpress.c Joined 6171 days ago 348 posts - 411 votes  Speaks: FrenchC1 | Message 73 of 130 07 May 2011 at 11:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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It's so impressive to read about the methods that you have adopted for yourself. It seems
to me in a slight way that your click and read method is almost ever so slightly like that of LinQ. That's always been a site I'm wanting to test and actually use to acquire a language but haven't up to now. Have you used this site before? What do you think of Steve Kauffmen's method? I do enjoy reading your quantitative approach to vocabulary and having some FIRM data as results. Very cool. Have you thought about moving away from books as your source material and perhaps trying native conversations or interviews? It would really interesting to see how the word frequencies change. Bon courage 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5559 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 74 of 130 14 May 2011 at 8:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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PROGRESS UPDATE, WEEKS 18-19
Summary  RUSSIAN
Active study: 19.5 hours (102.1 total) - study-and-click: 8.7 hours (Е. Замятин, "Мы" [novel]) - tv: 3.9 hours ("Высший пилотаж") - lingq: 2.5 hours - listening-reading: 2.2 hours (Е. Замятин, "Мы"; М. Булгаков, "Мастер и Маргарита" [novel]) - conversation: 55 minutes - podcasts: 40 minutes (Василий Стрельников, "The Big Podcast") - grammar: 30 minutes ("Грамматика русского языка в иллюстрациях") Passive immersion: 0.7 hours (37.2 total) - music: 40 minutes Estimated reading level: 83% (B1);  (I've clicked 6,575 words)
Conversation rank: A2+  (Младший Лейтенант)
Wanderlust confessional Hindi tried to get a hold of me and I parried once again, despite her alluring resources. Teango's word of the week хобот (trunk) - no...not Samwise Gamgee's best mate and weary ring-bearer; it's an elephant's prehensile nose (which I discovered on Iversen's blog recently can sometimes even be used for painting)! Notes This week has been a good time for surfing new waves. I've joined a 6 week challenge, gone up a grade in my reading level, and have finally come to the end of Zamyatin's "Мы". I've also moved on to "Мастер и Маргарита" and am absolutely loving it! And whilst this sublime classic was far too difficult for me a few months ago, it's now so much easier and fun to study. :) The week didn't start off quite so rosy, however, and at one point I felt very despondent about my lack of progression in Russian. Lately it's as though I've been trudging through merciless sand dunes of synthetic topsy-turvy vocabulary, each step a diminishing return, whilst wavering mirages of Bulgakov's rascals mock me on the distant horizon. And this is somewhat compounded by the niggling suspicion that with other languages I could already be sitting by a cool oasis sipping an over-embellished piña colada by now. So I've been racking my brain once again in search of a different angle and some fresh motivation, whilst at the same time trying to find purchase in a bit of everything and anything. And just as I started to think that I wasn't getting anywhere and the bus wasn't coming, I awoke this morning with an idea for streamlining my language learning whilst providing a simple framework for review and reward. It's nothing fancy really, but certainly worth a test-drive over the coming weeks, and if everything works out (as you never can tell with these things until you give them a good try), I'll go into more detail later. @Solfrid Cristin Spasibo bol'shoe...I have faith that we'll both get there sooner than we imagine, whilst preserving our sanity, and that victory will taste all the sweeter for it! In the meantime, I'm thoroughly enjoying your tales of Ukraine at the moment, and am looking forward to the next episode. :) @Buttons Thanks for your good luck wishes in the 6-week challenge. I'm finding it very motivating so far and think Sprachprofi's done a great job with the Twitter bot! Glancing over the impressive hours put in by some of the top scorers, it looks like I'll need all the luck I can get... @Adrean Merci! I tried out Lingq properly for the first time this week and was impressed with the amount of free material on offer, especially being able to order documents by percentage of new words. I did miss having a parallel hand-crafted translation though. Unfortunately, I quickly maxed out all my free lingqs, so I only managed to acquire a snug shapka and a healthy Granny Smith for my little pink avatar fella. And as for native conversations and interviews, I totally agree - that's the type of vocabulary I'd ideally like to learn (as well as being a veritable gold mine for linking phrases). I'm aiming to include much more of this type of material from now on in my revised language programme. Edited by Teango on 15 May 2011 at 10:15am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5559 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 75 of 130 16 May 2011 at 7:20pm | IP Logged | ||
I was delighted that my humble blogsite was nominated as part of this year's Top 100 Language Lovers competition. A big first for me (guess I'll have to spruce up the site and add some cool pictures in the unlikely case it wins more than one vote). :) Edited by Teango on 17 May 2011 at 10:02pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6360 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 76 of 130 16 May 2011 at 10:53pm | IP Logged | ||
Hey, you're able to study from Мастер и Маргарита now. -And it was too difficult before.. Do you know what this means? ♪ ☆ ☆☆ ☆☆☆ ☆☆☆ ☆☆ ☆ ♪ ♪ ☆☆☆LEVEL UP!! ☆☆☆ ♪ ☆☆ \(^^)/ \(^^)/ \(^^)/ ☆☆ ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆ Fear not, the lack of progression is only on the surface. Every single little буква you read will boost your Russian powers even if you don't notice it. Give yourself a pat on the back and stick to the language and you'll soon reach even higher! B) 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5559 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 77 of 130 20 May 2011 at 7:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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PROGRESS UPDATE, WEEK 20
Summary RUSSIAN
Active study: 10.5 hours (112.6 total) - study-and-click: 4.5 hours (М. Булгаков, "Мастер и Маргарита") - tv: 4.5 hours ("Лунтик", "Высший пилотаж") - lingq: 32 minutes - listening-reading: half an hour (М. Булгаков, "Мастер и Маргарита") - conversation: 15 minutes Passive immersion: 4.2 hours (42.9 total) - music: 4.2 hours Estimated reading level: 83% (B1); (I've clicked 7,081 words)
Conversation rank: A2+ (Младший Лейтенант)
Wanderlust confessional I've been learning a lot about the biochemistry and neurological processes behind memory consolidation this week. It's an intriguing area of research which fills in a lot of gaps left behind by educational psychology. Ironically, this has been much to the detriment of my Russian too, leaving me feeling a little guilty over having my nose deep in scientific papers rather than watching Russian children's programmes in my spare time. Guess I just find "brain science" an easier alternative at the moment - well...it's hardly Russian. ;) Teango's word of the week боб (bean) - looks like Bob, but pronounced like bop. An easy one to recognise - I just picture some beans, particularly delicious salted edamame, popping out of their pods and bopping around on my dinner plate to some pop music! Feeling a bit guilty about eating them now, seeing as they're having so much fun... Notes Unlike my frightful journey through Zamyatin's "Мы", after which I'm still haunted by the shadows of some soulless clockwork future, my hours with "Мастер и Маргарита" are filled with laughter and life's light seltzer. And I'm just in complete awe of Bulgakov's Russian and literary style... You needn't dive in more than a few pages to uncover finely spun phrases like "голоcом осведомился Бездомный" and "года на три в Соловки" glistening like gems in the morning dew. Initially it's hard to focus on any intricate beauty within the Russian language because, if you're anything like me, you're far too busy trying to cut a path through tousled thickets of alien words and thorny grammar. However, after a while it gets easier to find where you're going and uncover previously-tread trails, leaving the reader to appreciate one of the best things about Russian literature...the inclination towards poetry in gifted hands! I also made a fortuitous discovery this week...say "Привет!" to Лунтик: 
[ A quick question for any Lingq members: does this little guy look slightly familiar? ] I found this cartoon simply by chance whilst looking up other programmes on the Internet, which by all accounts, has been extremely popular in Russia over the last 5 years. Up until recently, I've only watched older Soviet cartoons or films, so it's been tough to get the gist of what's going on most the time. However with Лунтик it's a different story: I always understand what's going on, and am able to pick up lots of interesting new words from context. And as the episodes are cut into 5-minute sections and aimed at preschoolers (как я ;) ), there's plenty of repetition and use of simple high-frequency vocabulary. Simply ideal and just my listening level right now! :) Edited by Teango on 20 May 2011 at 7:29pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5559 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 79 of 130 24 May 2011 at 2:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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@Buttons
Gracias, botones! It was a really nice surprise to be nominated, so I'm simply thrilled that my little blog was included in this impressive list of bigger players. :D @Medialis Awesome kawaii "Level UP!". I picture it accompanied with some triumphant old skool computer game music...da-darala-da-da-da-DAAA! I'm just waiting now until I get to the next end-of-level "boss" or the infamous "Finish him!" stage. ;) Edited by Teango on 24 May 2011 at 2:18pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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