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| snovymgodom Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5725 days ago 136 posts - 149 votes  Speaks: English*, Russian | Message 33 of 55 07 January 2011 at 11:28pm | IP Logged | ||
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Great Russian grammar explanations! I'll check out the rest of your log too, since I've studied Arabic too. Just a few corrections in the Russian (it's possible you were already aware of this, but just mistyped):
о Владимире (об is used with vowels) я учусь во Франции (изучать is transitive) Санкт-Петербург (the hyphen is necessary here) But yeah, very solid work! And I like your sense of humor too. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Préposition Diglot Senior Member France aspectualpairs.wordp Joined 5114 days ago 186 posts - 283 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Swedish, Arabic (Levantine) | Message 34 of 55 08 January 2011 at 12:19am | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for the corrections (I had completely forgotten учусь, but then again, I hadn't done Russian for 7 months!), and please do correct the Arabic bits as well if needed (sure they will be!) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Préposition Diglot Senior Member France aspectualpairs.wordp Joined 5114 days ago 186 posts - 283 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Swedish, Arabic (Levantine) | Message 35 of 55 08 January 2011 at 3:09am | IP Logged | ||
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I have just found my lecturer's book on the Internet! If anyone is interested, an Arabic grammar book with A LOT of
(interesting) examples such as "it tastes like tinned sardines" or "spoilt girls like you generally content themselves with learning about home management". However, it's in .djvu, but interesting nonetheless: http://www.al3arabiya.info/2009/11/modern-literary-arabic-re ference.html 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Préposition Diglot Senior Member France aspectualpairs.wordp Joined 5114 days ago 186 posts - 283 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Swedish, Arabic (Levantine) | Message 36 of 55 08 January 2011 at 6:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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Right, after a day of doing nothing, I've decided that I wasn't really tackling the problem the right way. I spend a bit too much time reviewing my grammar on here, and I don't actually do enough practise, meaning I just know the rules as opposed to knowing how to use them. My aim for Arabic was to redo my two Al-Kitaabs entirely, mainly because I'm very behind by my university standards, and it dragged my overall down.
Now I don't just want to get by in Arabic. I don't want to be average anymore, and I would like to up my game. Of course textbooks are good to teach you grammar and vocabulary separately, but I have to get better at expressing myself in Arabic, at understanding the way it works, because I've got a year and a half before graduating, and I need to ace my course. The final year exam is about translation and written expression. Same applies for Russian, where I'm actually on top of my game by my university standards, but I feel very behind in terms of fluency. I can hold small conversations on topics I worked, but I only use very basic expressions, and I feel very restricted. I'm going to Russia in a month, and I will hopefully do my best to improve as much as I can. My main concern is that most of my classmates, both in Russian and Arabic will have spent their whole year in the country of their language. Because of my degree, I can only spend 4 months in each, and it is very restrictive. So what I really want to do is a sort of AJATT, except it'd be an ARAATT. Because my main motivation is to get better to achieve a good degree, I will continue with my textbooks, hopefully a lot more thoroughly. I will probably stop posting such long reviews of grammar points, because what's coming is gonna be bigger and more complicated than what I explained before, and I find it difficult to type in those languages. So what I will do from next week will be to write a small resumé of what I did during the day, maybe clarify a couple of points I did, and I will review what I studied over the week on Saturdays or Sundays. I will try new techniques, notably Shadowing and Scriptorium, but also Study-and-Click and the Goldlist Method. I will also try to do the entire set of Michel Thomas courses for Russian, simply to talk and hear Russian everyday. I did no work yesterday, apart from listening to Michel Thomas Italian, which is painstakingly slow, but is good for revision. Same for today, so far, I haven't done a thing, but my perfectionist side is currently fighting with my procrastinating side, so hopefully it'll win and I'll get to work tonight. Tomorrow, I intend to carry on with Al-Kitaab and research methods properly, select a few and start working on them as of Monday. Tuesday will be the beginning of my Italian Cuisine Challenge, and I will try to cook every day and will hopefully post pictures and a little bit of writing in Italian! That's it for now, hopefully I'll post an update later on! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Quabazaa Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5609 days ago 414 posts - 543 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German, French Studies: Japanese, Korean, Maori, Scottish Gaelic, Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Written) | Message 37 of 55 08 January 2011 at 8:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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That does sound like an interesting book, I'll have to check it out :) Cheers for the link!
I definitely understand not wanting to just be average. It can be quite difficult to actually use the language and produce much, it takes so much more effort than studying the rules. I am still at a low enough level that I feel I need a solid foundation of grammar and vocab before I can really write long paragraphs or hold up my side of a conversation. I do want to write more in lang-8 though! Have you tried it? Anyway I wish you the best of luck. Going to Russia will no doubt push you into more advanced levels! I am also looking forward to your Italian Cuisine adventure :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Préposition Diglot Senior Member France aspectualpairs.wordp Joined 5114 days ago 186 posts - 283 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Swedish, Arabic (Levantine) | Message 38 of 55 08 January 2011 at 10:20pm | IP Logged | ||
Nope, I had never heard of it, but I had a look and it sounds very interesting! Even more so than other programmes because you don't need to speak, which is fine because I'm not keen on talking to strangers on the Internet, haha. Writing is one thing, speaking is another… I'll try learning a grammar point and then I'll write a paragraph using just that one point of grammar, to see if I can get it right, that should work a hell of a lot better than just being able to remember the grammar! All my coursemates who are still in Damascus have to produce a 1,000 words essay entirely in Arabic, alongside a presentation, I am gonna try to do it too, especially because I was getting on very well with my teacher and have her email, so that'll be great practice as well! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ellasevia Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2011 Senior Member Germany Joined 6142 days ago 2150 posts - 3229 votes Speaks: English*, German, Croatian, Greek, French, Spanish, Russian, Swedish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Catalan, Persian, Mandarin, Japanese, Romanian, Ukrainian | Message 39 of 55 23 January 2011 at 8:02am | IP Logged | ||
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Привет Préposition! Как идут твои изучения русского, арабского, и итальянского? Когда ты поедешь в Россию?
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| joanthemaid Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5470 days ago 483 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Russian, German | Message 40 of 55 23 January 2011 at 9:08am | IP Logged | ||
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You're studying Italian too? Wow.
Just to say that I saw that huge post you wrote on your Russian studies and I thought "no way I'm gonna read that, it's way too long." But then I took a look and I did in fact read all of it. You talked about some things I have barely touched yet, even last year before forgetting everything I'd learned, and in a funny way, so now I think I'm finding the superlative much less scary (the problem is, my book presents all of the comparative and superlative exceptions in one tiny little page O_O). I'll just learn the important ones that you wrote on here first, and then take my time, maybe do some passive reading and come back to it. We'll see... Anyway, thanks for the explanations! Edited by joanthemaid on 23 January 2011 at 5:55pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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