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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5385 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 41 of 49 21 December 2011 at 8:25pm | IP Logged |
Lianne wrote:
Last night I did disc 6 of Michel Thomas. It suddenly got harder. I'm still getting it, though. I might re-do it to really make sure I know it. Right now I sometimes get mixed up with when to use le/la, lui/elle, or lui/lui, but I'm getting there. I was also just introduced to the fact that you have to add "de" in between an adjective and an infinitive verb, ie. "C'est impossible de le faire" as opposed to just "C'est impossible le faire". So I need to hammer that into my brain. |
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Pay really close attention to those prepositions before infinitive verbs, because they are quite tricky. It can be de, à, pour or nothing. MANY St.Boniface francophones get them wrong because of English interference, something that doesn't happen in predominantly French speaking areas.
C'est impossible de le faire = it's impossible to do it.
C'est impossible à faire = it's impossible to do.
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| Lianne Senior Member Canada thetoweringpile.blog Joined 5119 days ago 284 posts - 410 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Toki Pona, German, French
| Message 42 of 49 21 December 2011 at 8:46pm | IP Logged |
Oh geeze, I should have known it would get even more complicated! :) And don't even get me started on trying to remember when to use liaison and when not to...
Are you from Winnipeg, Arekkusu? You always seem to have input on St. Boniface French, which I assume most non-Winnipeggers wouldn't know much about.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5385 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 43 of 49 21 December 2011 at 9:09pm | IP Logged |
Lianne wrote:
Oh geeze, I should have known it would get even more complicated! :) And don't even get me started on trying to remember when to use liaison and when not to...
Are you from Winnipeg, Arekkusu? You always seem to have input on St. Boniface French, which I assume most non-Winnipeggers wouldn't know much about. |
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Not from, but in ;)
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| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4893 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish
| Message 44 of 49 22 December 2011 at 12:33am | IP Logged |
I never tried the FSI phonology courses, but I would guess that it's just as useful now
to jump into the regular FSI course. There's a lot of drills, but I think it helps to
get a feel for when to use de or à. I don't even know that they even had specific
drills for that, so much as that after a couple chapters you get a good sense of what
feels right.
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| Lianne Senior Member Canada thetoweringpile.blog Joined 5119 days ago 284 posts - 410 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Toki Pona, German, French
| Message 45 of 49 22 December 2011 at 3:38am | IP Logged |
@Arekkusu: Well, then, hi neighbour!
@kanewai: So you think I should just skip the Phonology course and just go straight into the Basic course?
Today's studying:
Disc 7 was another tough one, or at least parts of it were. I think I'm just going to keep going until I finish, and then go back and repeat the last half to make sure I really understand the tough points.
I also did 35 minutes of L-R today with the first Harry Potter book. I started out doing listening in French and reading in French (which I've already done through the whole book, but that was months ago), but after a few minutes I decided to switch and try listening in French and reading in English for the first time. Surprisingly, I was able to follow along! Between the proper nouns and the few words I already knew that come up a lot in the first chapter of Harry Potter (oncle, tante, hibou, chat, etc.) I never got lost. I didn't feel like I could learn any new words from it, though. It was just "oncle Vernon blah blah blah le chat blah blah blah". Without seeing the French text, I couldn't even easily identify the words. I'm curious to see how much easier it gets as I do more of this. Perhaps this is something I should invest some time in for a few days next week, since I've read that this method is most successful if you spend several days doing tonnes of it.
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| Lianne Senior Member Canada thetoweringpile.blog Joined 5119 days ago 284 posts - 410 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Toki Pona, German, French
| Message 46 of 49 23 December 2011 at 2:28am | IP Logged |
I just finished disc 8 and realised that the last two discs are review!!! I've never been so happy! I thought it was going to keep getting harder for two more discs. I could definitely use some review at this point. So much grammar! I might re-do the last three discs first, though, because I think there are some things in there I need more than just normal review of. :)
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| Lianne Senior Member Canada thetoweringpile.blog Joined 5119 days ago 284 posts - 410 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Toki Pona, German, French
| Message 47 of 49 24 December 2011 at 6:53am | IP Logged |
December 17 - December 23:
French: 7:35
Not too shabby this last week! I've done the first 8 discs of Michel Thomas Speak French for Beginners (all but the last discs, which are review), and I re-did lesson 6, which was easy the second time around. Next up: run through lessons 7 and 8 again, and then do the two review discs. Also, do more L-R this week since I'm off work for 9 whole days! Yay!
I probably won't accomplish much for the next few days, as I'll be busy feasting and opening presents! But maybe Boxing Day, and definitely on the 27th, I'll be back in full force with lots of free time!
Also, my cousin is probably going to come over some time next week to read some French with me and help me out. :)
Happy holidays everyone! Joyeuses fêtes!
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| LittleBoy Diglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5314 days ago 84 posts - 100 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto
| Message 48 of 49 01 January 2012 at 12:06am | IP Logged |
Sorry I was such a bad team mate. I've been meaning to post again for months, but never got round to it. My life has been a bit messy recently for a variety of reasons, but I should have at least said something.
I'm glad you seem to be doing well. I agree with your post from a while ago that we didn't communicate enough. If you want any help with French just ask. My advice to future TAC teams would be to aim to have at least a fortnightly Skype chat.
I look forward to seeing how you did with your goals and best of luck for next year!
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