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| ilcommunication Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6692 days ago 115 posts - 162 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 1 of 5 05 March 2011 at 12:25pm | IP Logged | |||||
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aka Cheating My Way To The Middle. Let's go!
So it's a pretty late start but better now than never. I’m an utter novice at Turkish, and by the end of this TAC I want to be a confident beginner, if not entering the intermediate level. I went to my first Turkish class today, and apparently it wasn't for rank beginners like me because we were already doing past tense. I was lost like tourists in a Moroccan medina. But no matter, time to employ the lessons of this community and catch up with my classmates (and please, don’t hesitate to give me any comments or critiques, I need all the help I can get). So, first thing's first: I have to get pronouns down. Ben, sen, o, biz, siz, onlar. Alright, now to apply them in basic present-tense conjugation: (To make) Ben ediyorum, sen ediyorsun, o ediyor, biz ediyoruz, siz ediyorsunuz, onlar ediyorlar (To go) Ben gidiyorum, sen gidiyorsun, o gidiyor, biz gidiyoruz, siz gidiyorsunuz, onlar gidiyorlar (To read) Ben okuyorum, sen okuyorsun, o okuyor, biz okuyoruz, siz okuyorsunuz, onlar okuyorlar OK, three is enough for now, time to drill these so I can recall them easy, and then after that look to past tense. One thing I can’t figure out is how necessary the pronouns are…is it optional like Spanish? Can you just say “ediyorum” and everyone knows what you mean? I’ll keep my ears open for an answer. We also did comparisons in class, so I need to get those down too: Turkce kolay, turkce daha kolay, turkce en kolay. Another thing to remember: bu = this, o = that Now, last thing, how to get consistent vocabulary lists for the task ahead. The words introduced in my last class are a good enough place to start, and I’ll add other words I come across to them. Here’s what I got so far: Kolay, gazete, sinimayia, dün, güzel, para, telefon, çocuk, adam, uzun, lafın, kıs, evli, hava I’ll be adding to this in the next few days. I’ll try to add to it with less randomness, but at this point any measure of basic vocabulary can’t hurt. On this log I'll also be keeping up with my Russian...my discussion group starts later this month and I need to get back up to speed (я хочу учится русскй потому что ето може быт мое любимое изик). I might also throw in some Swedish self-study here and there (jag ska läsa svenska, men jag bara hoppas jag kan prata det). One more thing, my Turkish class’ language of instruction is German, so this will be a test of my abilities in that language as well. Anyway, it's great to finally join the TAC, all the best to everyone here. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5847 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 5 05 March 2011 at 12:38pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hos geldin ve iyi sanclar!!!
Kind regards from one of your teammates. I wish you a good start and I will have a regular look into your TAC log. Fasulye 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5408 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh | Message 3 of 5 05 March 2011 at 11:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Good luck with Turkish !
On pronouns, Lewis wrote "As verb-endings change according to the person, these forms are used mainly for emphasis : ben tembel değilim, siz tembelsiniz, "I'm not lazy, you are lazy", (Teach Yourself Turkish, p.34). 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| ilcommunication Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6692 days ago 115 posts - 162 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 4 of 5 17 March 2011 at 12:39pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Vur hadi! So after shamelessly mining my teammates’ logs, I was able to put together a legitimate vocab list to work on (although I won’t post it here, it’s long and not all that interesting), and I also have a good number of verbs to work with:
Etmek – to make, to do Gitmek – to go Okumak – to read Sevmek – to love, to like Gelmek – to come Almak – to get, to buy Yemek – to eat Yazmak – to write Olmak – to be Çalışmak – to work, to study, to try Görmek – to see, to watch, to perceive Yürümek – to walk Gezmek – to stroll, to promenade Dinlemek – to hear, to listen Çalmak – to steal, to play (instrument), to throw down Sürmek – to drive Yüzmek – to swim Trying out present simple: Kitap alırım. Kitap yazarım. Araba sürerüm. Sonbahar severim. Istanbul giderim. I’ve been working on basic continuous and past tense as well. One thing that’s giving me trouble is vowel harmony, but I’m beginning to get a feel for it. I suspect it’s something that becomes instinctive with time, so I’m trying to hear it more than think about it, if that makes any sense. Yesterday in class was really neat, I’m much more caught up and less like a deer caught in the headlights. It’s definitely an intermediate course, but it’s kind of fun to have a trial by fire, I think I’ll get much more out of it. Another thing I’m getting a feel for is possessives: Çocuklarım = my kids Çocuklarımla = with my kids And also: Türkiyedeydim = I was in Turkey Kurs değildim = I wasn't in class (değil is always a negation, no?) Bursa deydik = We were in Bursa I guess at this point I should take a good look at my methods. Right now I’m obviously using my class, but the internet is another important resource. There are a few valuable sites that are helping me along. In addition, I should be getting my class’ Turkish workbook this week…the instruction language is German, but if it’s too much of an obstacle I should be able to go out and get one in English. It’s important to have good resources because I need to teach myself the basics that the course isn’t covering. Сичась, русский. Потому что я учусь туецкий, я хочу читаю история россия и турция (може быт по-русский, но вероятно по-английский). Кто знает хорошая книга о это? Так вчера я был в русская (или украинская?) магазине, и когда я гаварал с работнику, он думал я был полский. Это хорошо потому что сейчас я могу гаварить русский так себе...може быт хаха. Но в любом случае, я стяпал блинчики...это моя первая русская еда, но надеюсь что скоро я могу стяпаты хорошо. Тоже, я видал Карнавалная Ночь, это очен хорошо и шутка, я видел тоже Звезда и Белое Солнце Пустыни...но сейчас я хочу много фильмий по-русский. Где я могу искать...не знаю (Летят Жыравли?). Edited by ilcommunication on 17 March 2011 at 12:47pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ilcommunication Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6692 days ago 115 posts - 162 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Russian, Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 5 of 5 17 March 2011 at 12:46pm | IP Logged | |||||
Teşekkür ederim!
Perfect explanation, thank you. It's a big help to have both of you on my side, I look forward to exploring Turkish with you. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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