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| Humdereel Octoglot Groupie United States Joined 4970 days ago 90 posts - 349 votes  Speaks: English, Spanish*, Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Written), Turkish, Persian, Urdu Studies: Russian | Message 57 of 93 21 December 2011 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | |||||
In that case, I recommend the grammar books I mentioned earlier in the thread during my stories on how I learned Arabic (a few pages back). I've actually been previewing "Arabic for Life" during the past few weeks (sometimes I purchase Arabic learning materials to see if I would recommend them to other students), and I was planning to perhaps post a review in the Language Materials section, if that's possible. Arabic for life covers the script, basic to low-intermediate grammar, and most interestingly, "Windows to Arabic Culture" sections. I'm still not sure if I'd recommend it over the books I've already listed, though. Some people have already posted reviews on Amazon, however. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| stelingo Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5824 days ago 722 posts - 1076 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Czech, Polish, Greek, Mandarin | Message 58 of 93 21 December 2011 at 5:51pm | IP Logged | |||||
Sounds interesting but is listed as out of print on Amazon. Where did you get your copy? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| translator2 Senior Member United States Joined 6911 days ago 848 posts - 1862 votes Speaks: English* | Message 59 of 93 21 December 2011 at 11:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I purchased it on e-bay from the same seller I bought "All the Arabic You Never Learned the First Time", the subject of another thread and now available as a pdf
All the Arabic Thread
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| Fortwenster Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4977 days ago 24 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchC1 Studies: Arabic (Written) | Message 60 of 93 22 December 2011 at 3:04am | IP Logged | |||||
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I think I get it now. I admit that i was having a bad day when I wrote that. I will not give up on Arabic! I truly am intrested in it.
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| SmilingStraw Diglot Newbie United States Joined 4902 days ago 35 posts - 37 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Arabic (Written) | Message 61 of 93 24 December 2011 at 11:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I still wonder how divergent the Maghrebi dialects are. How many words, for example of Arabic origin? Is it more French and Barbar words htan Arabic words?
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| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4881 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 62 of 93 25 December 2011 at 12:49am | IP Logged | |||||
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Here's a dialogue from Assimil's arabe tunisien. Does anyone care to tell us
how different this is from MSA, Egyptian, or Levantine? 3es-sláma khoú-ya ma zeltou tserbíw? ach femma ma'koulát yá cháf? ma9a bi-yya 3la s7en 7oút? 3and-koum chi ma Safia wella gázoúz? 3and-koum chi chráb? 3and-na Sidi Sa3d. bríma, mala jib-l-na Sidi Sa3d. chá7iya-6aayyiba! 3la sa7t-k! yá cháf el-7sáb i3ech-k! el-makla moumtazza / bnína. khelli l-báqi 3and-k! This book doesn't give the arabic script, and my computer won't do all the marks they use, so this is my best attempt at transcription. Here's the French: Bonjour, vous servez encore,monsieur? Que servez-vous aujourd'hui, chef? Je voudrais une assiette de poisson. Auriez-vous de l'eau minérale Safia ou du soda? Servez-vous du vin? Nous avons du Sidi Saâd. Super, allons-y pour in Sidi Saâd. Bon appétit! Santé! La note s'il vous plaît, chef! La cuisine est excellente. Gardez la monnaie! I'm at the very beginning stages of learning MSA, and some of the verbs and endings here are familiar, but for the most part this looks pretty different to me! Someone with more experience might be able to tell us more. Edited by kanewai on 25 December 2011 at 12:55am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Humdereel Octoglot Groupie United States Joined 4970 days ago 90 posts - 349 votes Speaks: English, Spanish*, Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Written), Turkish, Persian, Urdu Studies: Russian | Message 63 of 93 26 December 2011 at 5:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
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@SmilingStraw: Well, when I spent my month+ in Morocco, I found the Maghrebi dialect there to be quite incomprehensible. One moment, I'd understand everything, but every other moment I'd have no clue. When I made friends with some of the locals, I asked them to write down what they said to each other, in Arabic script. One of them went ahead, and tried to write out the sounds he said and the words. To my surprise, a great amount of the vocabulary was indeed Arabic. What had occurred was that Moroccans tend to cluster consonants, and I was so used to hearing some vowels from the eastern dialects. However, there were certainly some words that I could tell were from French and Berber origin. In all, I'd say that the Maghrebi dialects are more Arabic than people (including native speakers) think initially.
@kanewai: Interesting. I recognize a lot of it, but since I don't know French, I had to put it into Google Translate, which I don't always think is that reliable. I recognize that many of the words are of course Arabic, including the first line, and several words of the rest of the lines. However, it's hard for me to highlight the key differences between Tunisian and the Middle Eastern dialects since I've only had 2 weeks of experience with it. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| BioCatLan Newbie United States Joined 4708 days ago 3 posts - 4 votes Speaks: English* | Message 64 of 93 27 December 2011 at 2:56pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hey Humdereel, you said your focus was on science, right? Like you are/were in college studying a science in school and studying Arabic on your own?
And I joined this site just for this amazing thread after finding it on google! :D Edited by BioCatLan on 27 December 2011 at 3:09pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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