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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes  20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 9 of 14 15 July 2014 at 5:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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I suspect very strongly that if you want to learn Chuvash, you're best to look for stuff published in English, German or Russian. Even here, you might need to jump some hoops as one graduate student found out.
I just ran a short search of "Çuvaş ders kitabı" (Chuvash textbook) and "Çuvaşça dersler" and got little in the way of results. There is a book on grammar "Çuvaş Türkçesi Grameri" and a dictionary Çuvaş Türkçesi - Türkiye Türkçesi Sözlük " but I couldn't find any textbook. What I also find interesting is that a course of Chuvash offered at a Turkish university (?) uses English and Russian material as the primary textbooks. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4254 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 10 of 14 20 July 2014 at 12:51am | IP Logged | ||
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Damn, thanks. Maybe it would actually be easiest to travel to Chuvashia to learn it if I ever do then. I'm just interested in Chuvash because apparently it's had a lot of reciprocal influence with a handful of FU-languages which is interesting.
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 11 of 14 20 July 2014 at 4:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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You probably know about this, but that same graduate student I mentioned, Chris Culver, has some entries in his blog about the contacts between the Uralic and Turkic languages spoken near the junction of the Volga and Kama rivers. You may these especially interesting.
New Chuvash resources from Turku (this post is from 2008 but maybe you can still get some information about these books since you're in Finland) The uncertain etymology of Mari plural markers I The uncertain etymology of Mari plural markers II Mari loans with initial ś- or y- in Chuvash Mari and Chuvash potatoes Favours in Mari and Turkic The peculiar replacement of the basic GO verb in Mari and Chuvash Two Turkic idioms in Mari Mari and Chuvash days of the week Turkic influence on Mari Chuvash and Mari videos at YouTube Udmurt and Tatar days of the week Basically, you could spend a lot of time browsing Culver's posts that are tagged with Chuvash, Mari, Turkic and Udmurt among several others listed under "Categories" on the upper right of his blog. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4254 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 12 of 14 25 July 2014 at 11:56pm | IP Logged | ||
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According to Eric the Uralic and Altaic series publications can be bought through Indiana University for relatively cheap, I don't know whether the price is their digitization-tax or what though.
"THIS VOLUME IS PUBLISHED BY INDIANA UNIVERSITY AND MAY BE ORDERED FROM THE EDITOR, URALIC AND ALTAIC SERIES, RAYL HOUSE, INDIANA UNIVERSITY, BLOOMINGTON, INDIANA 47401, FOR $5.50. (AMM)" There's an online manual on this website but it's in separate units and everything so it's a bit annoying. I'll see if I can print it out or something, sometime. It's just one of those "I'd like to do" but if finding materials is this laborous it'll be quite annoying. Time'll tell. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| daristani Senior Member United States Joined 7145 days ago 752 posts - 1661 votes Studies: Uzbek | Message 13 of 14 27 July 2014 at 11:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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The ERIC info on the Indiana Uralic and Altaic series of books is way out of date; IU doesn't publish them any longer, and the more recent reprinted editions by Routledge (nothing other than a reprint of the originally typewriter texts) are ridiculously expensive.
The Mongolia Society sells a reprint of the Krueger Chuvash Manual for 25 dollars here: http://www.mongoliasociety.org/?q=section/200706225.htm PDFs can also be found at "certain places" on-line. Note that Kruger's book is a distillation of the Russian grammatical works available to him at the time. He never heard Chuvash spoken. So while his manual can be useful for getting a basic idea of the written language, it won't much help in developing any conversational ability. Edited by daristani on 29 July 2014 at 1:50pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 14 of 14 29 July 2014 at 12:30am | IP Logged | ||
On a related note, I ran searches using “самоучитель [insert language name in genitive case]” and “уроки [insert language name in genitive case]” and found a few interesting things for myself in Uralic and Turkic languages spoken in Russia. Since you're studying Russian, you can cast your net for resources wider than I can. Perhaps you can also find a newer set of material for Chuvash that's issued in Russian but which somehow eluded Chris Culver's attention. For example, this playlist of lessons might be helpful for you to get a taste of Chuvash. As for myself, I found some interesting online material for Kazakh and Tatar. I'm sure that I could uncover some other gems (that are legal too!) for Uralic and other Turkic languages if I consider material that's issued in Russian. On the other hand, it's probably better that my Russian remain at a virtually useless level since I'd be otherwise seized with unmanageable wanderlust. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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