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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5332 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 25 of 34 27 July 2012 at 8:02am | IP Logged | ||
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I love your updates! I completely agree with you on the nationalism thing and Germany. There are always
so many casualties of war we do not think of, and one of them is Germans being able to express proudness of their nation, their flag, nationalt anthem etc. on the same level as we can in the US or in Norway. A British friend once visited Norway on the 17th of May, which is our national holiday. He said he felt threatened by the amount of flags he saw, and that everyone were wearing national costumes. I was flabbergasted. How can you feel threatened by a flag!?! Particularly because our national day is all about children parading, it is not a militaristic one like in some countries. I mentioned it to a German friend, and she just nodded, and said that this was the reality Germans were living. Always holding back for fear of offending someone. That just made me so sad. Everyone should have the right to show that they are proud of their country. And as for the news about your renewed interest in Norwegian, I can just say what I said to Tecktight: Awesome!! I am here for anything I can assist you with, and if you decide to come to Norway and need a extra mom away from home, I'm here :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5479 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 26 of 34 27 July 2012 at 8:12am | IP Logged | ||
It's true that in Germany the only time you see really any flags shown in windows or on the street is during international soccer competitions (World Cup, Eurocup, etc.). Hopefully over time this will change :). And YAY! I was talking to Ellasevia and we were making a list of pros and cons of my list of countries and one of my pros for Norway was getting to see you! I had completely forgotten that when I was listing my countries and all of a sudden Norway went up a few notches! It had a net total (# of pros - #of cons) of 5, whereas the other countries had totals of 2 and 3. I'm glad to know that I have some sort of family abroad :). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5332 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 27 of 34 27 July 2012 at 5:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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Do you know which part of Norway you would be going to if you end up here? If you can influence it, go for
the area around Oslo. More to do, nicer climate and easier for me to be of help. In addition having a special someone sounds like a really good reason to chose a country :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5479 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 28 of 34 27 July 2012 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | ||
There is a possibility of being placed ANYWHERE in the country, which is why all my countries terrify me slightly (winters become extremely harsh in all of them except Brazil). I would HOPE to be near Oslo, due to my desire to learn quite standard Norwegian, although my friend lives in Trondheim (which is central apparently?) so wherever I am placed I'm sure I'll be happy. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5332 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 29 of 34 28 July 2012 at 8:40am | IP Logged | ||
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Well, the dialect around Oslo is certainly the most standard variant, but the one around Trondheim is not
difficult at all. Besides you might still learn the standard variant even living in Trondheim because there are a lot of students an others living there who speak standard Norwegian. Anyhow there is a lot to be said for speaking a dialect. You would impress the hell out of all Norwegians you met , and it is easier to hide a foreign accent behind one of the dialects. The Oslo dialect is so well known that everyone will immediately catch the slightest mistake, but if you speak a dialect less people are familiar with it. From the point of view of travelling Oslo is of course best, as there are very good connections to every other city in the country, and lots of cheap flights for the rest of Europe. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Tecktight Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States Joined 4974 days ago 227 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, Serbian Studies: German, Russian, Estonian | Message 30 of 34 28 July 2012 at 9:57am | IP Logged | ||
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Fantastisch! Please do PM me when you get the chance. I'll take you up on your offer for the link to the Soko
Koeln show. It sounds like just my type of thrilleresque series. I'l have to watch it once I get back to the U.S., though, where I'll have stable internet. It's impossible to stream anything with my current connection. I'm glad you're making progress in Russian! The hardest thing is getting through the basics, in my opinion, because it just gets overwhelming with all the cases and these or those exceptions. Granted, once you get to higher-level stuff, it's still complicated, but at least you know that it's so complicated you could probably survive without using it if you mess up. Then, slowly, you'll just absorb it all and use it without thinking. Woohoo, yet another HTAL member embarking on Norwegian! Have to say, a Norwegian boyfriends sounds pretty nice. Though a Polish or Russian or German one wouldn't be bad either. Hell, I say pursue all four! No one has to know. We'll keep the knowledge of your polyamorous relations safe and quiet. ;) I agree with you in that the lack of German nationalism is sad in a way. What's unfortunate is that the people fear of being accused of racism or of being a nazi, or what have you, if they express any patriotic feelings, minus at football matches and such. Post-Stalinist Russia has no such problems, nor does Japan, whose troops slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocents during the war. Anyway, best not to get into politics on here as I've learned, but I'm sure, over time, things will settle, hatred will fade. Remembrance is absolutely essential, but younger generations shouldn't forever be saddled with personal guilt for the mistakes of the past. Anywho, again, glad you're back, and I'm looking forward to continuing to read your log. ^_^ 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5479 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 31 of 34 07 September 2012 at 7:36am | IP Logged | ||
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AHHH! I haven't realized the forum's been up and working D:!
I never got around to checking the temporary forum for information regarding this one here, and I've been missing out! Sorry guys! A little updating is in store...RIGHT NOW! :D Deutsch: To begin, I got a 5 on the AP German exam, which excited me TO NO END. Upon returning to school, I told this to my teacher who also got very excited. We speak to each other sometimes in passing, and I've watched some TV and movies, but other than that I'm not practicing much German. I made a new German friend, however, who is an exchange student at my school. Her English is surprisingly not at the level I would expect it to be at, however it's no bother :). I feel as if she feels more comfortable speaking in German with me, and I'm more than happy to make sure that she has someone she can communicate with on a higher level :). Русский: A bunch of things caught me up, and I failed to make any progress in any conventional methods, however I did manage to get some speaking in Russian with my friend Alika. She sits next to me in my music class, and we chat in Russian when the conversation isn't too complicated :). She understands what I want to say and will help me get across my point more or less grammatically correct, so it's almost like having a tutor :D. After discovering the new Russian Assimil (in English), I know what I want to get for my birthday :), so I'll hopefully have that to work with soon. Español: I decided to take Spanish 6 instead of AP, and it was a very wise decision. It's nice to be able to hear, speak, read, and write Spanish regularly again, but it's not at the level of stress that it was originally supposed to be. Spanish is actually the only language I've "conventionally" studied in the past few weeks, seeing as how it's been for school rather than personal study. All in all, this whole past month has not been very strong language wise. I was in Miami, the forum was down, and I started school upon returning to Miami two days later. What's worse is that I must begin college applications soon, so I doubt I'll be seeing much of my language books in the two coming months (other than Spanish). I feel as if this year was a bust, and I'm really disappointed in myself. In addition to my language failures, I got a VERY bad grade on a calculus quiz, which will affect my quarter AND semester grade very badly, and I fear that this may be the straw that breaks the camel's back when it comes to being accepted into certain schools. Nothing's really going my way, but hopefully I'll be able to get back on track with traditional study once the points of stress are over (all my applications are due in November). I'll keep updating on my measly progress here though :). All the best~ 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5479 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 32 of 34 21 September 2012 at 1:34am | IP Logged | ||
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Yay! Updates!
Deutsch: I've been speaking with my new German friend a lot, and I feel comfortable speaking German again for some reason. I've not had time to do much reading or anything, however I find my speaking surprisingly good for someone who's not studied German for a while. I feel like it's all there, I just need to dust it off. I also saw my old Austrian friend today and we talked a bit. It was great to see her, and I got to speak German! Russian: I've been pushing through Penguin Russian at a surprisingly fast pace. I'm almost at the point where I left off. Most of my studying is done in my free time at school, since Penguin Russian is the only "portable" Russian book I have (one that doesn't require a whole lot of space. I've not gotten to rebegin Ultimate Russian, although I'd imagine that will happen sometime soon. I've been speaking Russian more and more with my friend and I like the exposure. Of course I always have to say stuff in English or ask her how to say something, but other than that it's actually going quite well! All my other languages other than Spanish aren't really getting time right now, but I hope to bring them back soon! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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