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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5846 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 49 of 204 02 April 2012 at 6:18pm | IP Logged |
Rob_Austria wrote:
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Tim, I also have a You Tube channel and if people post there and I'm not available, I would just not react. I'm fine with this that, if i post something, that I get no reaction. But You Tube has no function of "automatic" deletion of posts. I'm on You Tube since 2009, so I know how a You Tube channel works. I have read your post on your channel that you are in France without any internet access. My post was dated on the day that the New York Times article was published, but it's gone now. So, why??? (...)
Gee, Fasulye, you sound as if you wanted to burn him at the stake. He has not committed any crime (even if he had deleted your post) ;-)
I saw that you edited your previous posts but I still think you were way too harsh suggesting that he actually lied to you when he had already told you that he did not delete the post.
I hope Tim won't be too frustrated by some of the rather unwelcoming posts here.
(...) By the way: Welcome to this language forum! (...)
That's the way to go Fasulye ;-)
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Robert, you misunderstood my posts, but I hope that at least Tim understood what I meant.
My reactions were adressed to Tim. I like his videos very much and I find them inspiring and the content of my post was (which he can't see any more, because of a techncial You Tube feature) that I offered Tim to have a look at my You Tube channel as well. I am a big fan of polyglot networking and I like to have language contacts with different people no matter what their age is.
My offer to Tim is still valid, I invite him to have a look at my videos as well. But I can't influence the technical features of You Tube, that's their policy.
Tim, would you like me to repost on your channel?
Kind regards,
Fasulye
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5380 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 50 of 204 02 April 2012 at 6:52pm | IP Logged |
hribecek wrote:
There's a radio interview with Tim on the BBC, here's the address (hopefully). They test him a little bit in French and Mandarin.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17548351 |
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Awesome job, Tim!
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| tmp011007 Diglot Senior Member Congo Joined 6068 days ago 199 posts - 346 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese
| Message 51 of 204 02 April 2012 at 11:19pm | IP Logged |
Rob_Austria wrote:
I just think that the way she commented on his accent made her sound a bit arrogant.. |
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really? "made her sound a bit arrogant" or she "comes across as quite self-confident"? but is that really such a bad thing?
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| Rob_Austria Heptaglot Groupie Austria Joined 5001 days ago 84 posts - 293 votes Speaks: German*, Italian, Spanish, French, English, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Croatian, Mandarin, Russian, Arabic (Written), Turkish
| Message 52 of 204 03 April 2012 at 12:17am | IP Logged |
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really? "made her sound a bit arrogant" or she "comes across as quite self-confident"? but is that really such a bad thing?
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(smile :-) I can see where you are coming from but I do think there is a difference between talking about yourself and judging others. I don't see how the way she judged his accent would make her appear self-confident. I guess this may be one of the underlying problems with so many "peer reviews": Be strict and demanding and people will think you are really good yourself. It doesn't hurt to be encouraging, does it? And I'm sure you don't have to lie to motivate people.
Just my way of looking at things though. Of course, many people will disagree and that is perfectly alright.
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| Rob_Austria Heptaglot Groupie Austria Joined 5001 days ago 84 posts - 293 votes Speaks: German*, Italian, Spanish, French, English, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Croatian, Mandarin, Russian, Arabic (Written), Turkish
| Message 53 of 204 03 April 2012 at 12:28am | IP Logged |
Robert, you misunderstood my posts, but I hope that at least Tim understood what I meant.
My reactions were adressed to Tim.
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I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your words but they did sound harsh to me and as for your remark that your reactions were adressed to Tim, well, you did post them in a public forum for everybody else to read and in mho those remarks did not sound very friendly. So, I consider my replying to them totally adequate.
If Tim interpreted your words differently I'm sure you'll have ample opportunities for networking. I have come to know you (even though only through posts and e-mail exchanges) as a person who is truly interested in an exchange of ideas and that is an attitude I like.
Again, the important thing is to try and help each other and keep each other motivated. I don't really care about the rest but I will keep saying what I think if the occasion arises ;-)
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| portunhol Triglot Senior Member United States thelinguistblogger.w Joined 6251 days ago 198 posts - 299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: German, Arabic (classical)
| Message 54 of 204 03 April 2012 at 12:35am | IP Logged |
It doesn't hurt to be encouraging, does it? And I'm sure you don't have to lie to motivate people. [/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly. I hope to encourage other language learners. Language learning is a marathon, not a 100 meter dash. We all need four times as much encouragement as criticism.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6908 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 55 of 204 03 April 2012 at 12:41am | IP Logged |
I guess I'm with Robert here. Tim's Chinese didn't fool me, but neither did the woman's English. I know it wasn't a "competition" podcast but compared to Tim, the Chinese woman must have had all the time in the world to improve her English. (How long had Tim been at it? A year?)
We can only do our best. Some people never get satisfied with the accent of second-language learners.
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| translator2 Senior Member United States Joined 6918 days ago 848 posts - 1862 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 56 of 204 03 April 2012 at 1:11am | IP Logged |
I will be glad when the parlor trick of learning basic grammar and stock phrases in 20+ languages and passing yourself off as a genius in the media comes to an end.
Very strange to study six-seven languages for 25 years and then hear someone claiming to speak 23 of them at the age of 16. Something doesn't quite add up. Of course, I guess someone with a basic knowledge of grammar and a vocabulary of 400-500 words can claim to speak a language and is put on the same level as someone with a vocabulary of 30,000 words and an advanced degree in a language.
People are so ready to believe in things despite common sense. Partially understandable for people who don't know how much is involved in learning just one other language, but astounding that people on this site are so easily fooled. At his current rate, he would be "speaking" 191 languages by age 30.
I don't understand the media's amazement with "hyperglots" who have made a brief, cursory study of multiple languages. It seems like it is not how well you learn languages, but how quickly and how many.
I am reminded of this video:
Seven Minute Abs
Edited by translator2 on 03 April 2012 at 1:57am
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