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kaptengröt Tetraglot Groupie Sweden Joined 4329 days ago 92 posts - 163 votes Speaks: English*, Swedish, Faroese, Icelandic Studies: Japanese
| Message 17 of 22 13 January 2013 at 9:13am | IP Logged |
Knowing Icelandic and Scandinavian was essential for me to learn Faroese - err, or should I say, I didn't need to "learn" Faroese anymore after I knew those two well enough because I then had instant understanding of written Faroese, and can grasp some spoken (but I haven't studied spoken yet). Icelandic to learn Swedish was essential to know rules for genders and how-to-turn-words-plural in Swedish that they do not teach you in textbooks for Swedish, likewise reading Faroese materials for Icelandic is also useful. They all help each other when they are related. Although those were not real necessities,
Scandinavian, Finnish, or Russian is absolutely essential to learn Sami (Finnish would probably be best as they are more related I have read), and Scandinavian is essential to learn Greenlandic. However these languages I know don't really help anything much outside of ones related to them as far as I know. Maybe in learning Finnish. And for some reason I just would not trust a Scandinavian textbook to teach me Japanese (I guess because I have a problem myself - Scandinavian languages feel like joke languages to me so I can't take them seriously, Icelandic feels more serious to me, but English is much more serious still.)
I think that even if you are not very good at your second language, if you use it to learn your third you will be learning a lot of the second too. But most of all you get a big confidence boost later on when you realized you just learned a third language, from a book that was in a language none of the people around you can read a word of... I think it's important to think back to when you didn't know any of the language and give yourself more confidence/pride sometimes.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5325 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 18 of 22 13 January 2013 at 10:20am | IP Logged |
kaptengröt wrote:
for some reason I just would not trust a Scandinavian textbook to teach me Japanese (I guess because I have a problem myself - Scandinavian languages feel like joke languages to me so I can't take them seriously, Icelandic feels more serious to me, but English is much more serious still.)
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I beg your pardon?
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6900 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 19 of 22 13 January 2013 at 12:36pm | IP Logged |
kaptengröt wrote:
And for some reason I just would not trust a Scandinavian textbook to teach me Japanese (I guess because I have a problem myself - Scandinavian languages feel like joke languages to me so I can't take them seriously, Icelandic feels more serious to me, but English is much more serious still.) |
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I can definitely see that a grammar-heavy language (such as Icelandic) can be better at explaining grammatical features of the target language (e.g. Japanese), if that's what you're talking about. If not, I as puzzled as Solfrid. (And even if, dumbed down textbooks are not unique to Swedish, although I've of course seen more of them than in English)
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4698 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 20 of 22 13 January 2013 at 6:04pm | IP Logged |
I use French because it's the easiest road to Breton, because Assimil offers more French-
based material and it is the foreign language (besides English) I have the most
experience with, as well as the most grammatical knowledge.
Good textbooks are good textbooks and bad textbooks are bad textbooks.
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| milesaway Triglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4322 days ago 134 posts - 181 votes Speaks: French, English*, Russian Studies: Finnish, Sign Language
| Message 21 of 22 19 January 2013 at 5:00pm | IP Logged |
I'm living in Russia, so while it is possible for me to find Finnish resources in English, they are usually triple the cost of the Russian materials, so I'm using a few different resources that are only in Russian (and Finnish of course).
So I'm trying to learn L4 via L3, which can be exceedingly frustrating at times, although it brushes up on my Russian grammar terms, I've had a few moments where a new Finnish word was explained/translated into Russian, and I couldn't understand either of them. Oh well.
Otherwise most of the materials I use are English-based. If I could find French-based books in Russia, I would happily use them, but I guess I'll stick with the Russian-based ones and hope that my Russian improves as a result. :D
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| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4512 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic
| Message 22 of 22 19 January 2013 at 5:34pm | IP Logged |
German, English and Norwegian (and to some extend [older] Danish) are the languages I use to learn others. Norwegian mainly for Old Norse/Old Norwegian, Danish for some stuff in Old Icelandic like understanding poetry or for parallel texts of sagas.
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