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Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6701 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map
| Message 9 of 11 22 March 2012 at 12:38pm | IP Logged |
There is one thing in this method which must be hard for budding native teachers, namely to invent a consistent and stable inventory of movements. And in my opinion this is as difficult as learning for instance to use a certain wordlist format or recognizing the main parts of a simple sentence.
I do recognize that there are endangered languages out there where good dictionaries and grammars are lacking (or irrelevant because they where written by linguists for linguists), and as a teacher then you may have to use a method based solely on objects around you - but this is not an optimal situation for anybody.
Language hunting may actually be the nearest thing to 'learning as a child' for an adult learner (including the observation that most parents aren't educated teachers or linguists), but I don't see that as a goal in itself. In my opinion it is silly not to supplement the simple teacher-pupil setup with studies of grammars, dictionaries and written texts from the beginning. I don't expect the language hunters to deliver everything you need to learn languages so this is not a criticism of their contribution, just a warning against believing that they can give you everything.
As I wrote above I actually think that the use of associated body movements may help you to memorize and later recall words and expressions, and echoing a native teacher is also an old and well tested technique (I know that profArguelles finds it less efficient than simultaneous shadowing, but my personal wiring is such that I stop listening when I speak) .. and the idea about producing 'bare foot teachers' to teach endangered languages is extremely laudable. But I can still only accept the techniques at this site as part of the learning process because they leave out (or postpone) a lot of other elements.
Edited by Iversen on 22 March 2012 at 12:40pm
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| iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5260 days ago 2241 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French)
| Message 10 of 11 26 March 2012 at 9:40pm | IP Logged |
In case anyone is interested,here is a direct link to the 8 and a half minute video that introduces the language hunters and their process: Language Hunters Video
Edited by iguanamon on 26 March 2012 at 9:41pm
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strickvl Bilingual Tetraglot Pro Member Jordan alexstrick.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4696 days ago 27 posts - 41 votes Speaks: English*, Dutch*, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Levantine) Studies: Persian, Pashto, Dari Personal Language Map
| Message 11 of 11 11 February 2013 at 2:43pm | IP Logged |
Just came across this. Very intrigued. Will buy and read the book to learn more.
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