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 Yashinka Diglot Pro Member SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5207 days ago 29 posts - 37 votes Speaks: Swedish*, EnglishC2 Studies: Japanese, German, Italian Personal Language Map | Message 9 of 25 01 April 2012 at 9:59am | IP Logged | ||
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For me, It took about one year of focused kanji study before I reached a level where I could read Harry Potter in Japanese without too much effort. That being said, I spent about a year before that working on grammar and vocabulary, I like to point out though that I am by no means a quick learner. I think it is achievable to be able to read a light novel in Japanese after 1 year of intense studies, 2 years if you like to tackle it with more leisure.
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| dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4663 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes  Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese | Message 10 of 25 01 April 2012 at 1:26pm | IP Logged | ||
I'm currently managing about an hour a day of Japanese (memrise, RTK, a little grammar). How long a day (roughly) is "focussed", just so I know when to go and buy my first Japanese newspaper :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Yashinka Diglot Pro Member SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5207 days ago 29 posts - 37 votes Speaks: Swedish*, EnglishC2 Studies: Japanese, German, Italian Personal Language Map | Message 11 of 25 01 April 2012 at 4:23pm | IP Logged | ||
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It truly depends upon how effective you are with your time, I would suggest though that anything under 2 hours is leisure, that's the only real pointer I can give. In particular I used two resources in order to get a solid reading skill. ReadtheKanji and at that time the still awesome Smartfm 6000 core vocabulary list. Smartfm has changed drastically though, to what I would say a useful but limited resource. Hopefully, the promised changes will change that, in the meantime, as a newcomer to Memrise, I can sense the old Smartfm spirit in that site so keep on working there if you find it beneficial :)
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| dambros Diglot Newbie Brazil Joined 4628 days ago 15 posts - 16 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English | Message 12 of 25 01 April 2012 at 9:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you everyone for all the replies. It seems JP requires a lot more work than other
languages to achiev a good reading level. People say they are able to read pretty well on most language within 6-8 months, but so far JP took more than a year for everybody in here. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 13 of 25 02 April 2012 at 1:25am | IP Logged | ||
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I think the 6-8 months thing is normally for languages that use alphabets...
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| cathrynm Senior Member United States junglevision.co Joined 6123 days ago 910 posts - 1232 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Finnish | Message 14 of 25 02 April 2012 at 1:51am | IP Logged | ||
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I think after about 3 years I could basically struggle through anything with the use of a dictionary and quite a few look-ups. I'm better now, but I still hit a lot of new words in books, and the names are ludicrously difficult (though names, in Japanese? For me, just forget it. I don't worry about this. There is no shame in reading names incorrectly.)
It seems to me, this is a very deep well, and however much you learn, there's always more. I haven't even started on 4-character idioms. Maybe in a couple years or so I'll get to it. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5764 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 15 of 25 02 April 2012 at 2:50am | IP Logged | ||
But the incredible triumph when you guessed the reading of a name correctly! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ericspinelli Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5781 days ago 249 posts - 493 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Italian | Message 16 of 25 02 April 2012 at 3:07am | IP Logged | ||
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I read my first two novels in Japanese, The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and Gulliver's
Travels, within the first 18 months or so of study. Both were translations aimed at around 6th grade elementary school students and used furigana, but I moved on to adult novels after that and just barely completed my goal of ten books in one year (months 18 - 30). I wrote in more detail about my reading strategy and my experience with the aforementioned books in two posts here (Breaking the Int/Advanced Barrier). Arguing over how to learn kanji is a waste of time, but I will say that I did not use Reading the Kanji or SRS software. Edited by ericspinelli on 02 April 2012 at 3:11am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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