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 Mae Trilingual Octoglot Pro Member Germany Joined 4990 days ago 299 posts - 499 votes  Speaks: German*, SpanishC2*, Swiss-German*, FrenchC2, EnglishC2, ItalianB2, Dutch, Portuguese Studies: Russian, Swedish Personal Language Map | Message 65 of 143 11 September 2012 at 10:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
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@montmorency & tarvos: Thanks for your input guys! It's nice to know we're not all
alone studying in peace and quite in the backroom! :-))) @Teango: Thanks for your post! There's nothing wrong in being a child at heart (I am too). That is what keeps your spirit young! ;-) @Julie: Good luck with your course too. Where did you learn Swiss-German? :-D  There we go!
Today we got some serious homework to do: the first "test" in the book, which means we're already half way through it! Yay! Retrospective: I found myself enjoying this Swedish course! And what is even better, I managed to rise motivation to take up Dutch at the same time. Swedish is a wonderful language, "totally tonal". I don't know if Swiss intonation helps me sound "more Swedish", but I definitely have an advantage: I sound more fluent when reading and speaking. I just switch to "Swiss mode" and the intonation is no problem anymore. Moreover, Swedish and Dutch have many things in common, which is helpful, because I was feeling fed up with Dutch. Now, when I learn something new in Swedish, I think about the same thing in Dutch, to avoid mixing things up. And that leads me to my last point for today will be a comment to quash rumours: Swedish is not like German. Of course you can understand many words if you already speak it, but there is no particular advantage from knowing German when learning Swedish. Having knowledge of English, Dutch, or even Russian or French will help you along too. What will really help you is to visit IKEA. Many Swedish verbs, adjectives or nouns were taken to name their products, such as lamps, storage articles and other; e.g. the little candles called "GLIMMA" ("to shine"), artificial flowers called "FEJKA" ("fake"), etc. Is there a better way to learn vocabulary than live? :-) Edited by Mae on 11 September 2012 at 10:47pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 66 of 143 11 September 2012 at 10:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Whenever I make Swedish wordlists, I often use German or Dutch cognates despite the
English word being the one given by my book (I use FSI Swedish as you might have read in my log) because they correspond to the meaning of the word in either language quite well. Often I find there is a parallel between Swedish and Dutch spellings that does not exist so much in German due to their consonant shift, and you have to think more to find out what the German cognate word is, and the Dutch cognate is easier to guess because the spelling is closer. I do not know whether my tonality in Swedish is 100% accurate because I have never learned a tonal language before. I love attempting to pronounce it though. Also very happy to hear you still like Dutch. Swedish is one of my favourite languages to listen to and to speak lately (along with Russian) so I am very happy to follow this log. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Mae Trilingual Octoglot Pro Member Germany Joined 4990 days ago 299 posts - 499 votes Speaks: German*, SpanishC2*, Swiss-German*, FrenchC2, EnglishC2, ItalianB2, Dutch, Portuguese Studies: Russian, Swedish Personal Language Map | Message 67 of 143 11 September 2012 at 11:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
Tack så mycket, Tarvos! Varför lär du dig svenska?
This is exactly what I mean! BTW, thanks for following! :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Julie Heptaglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6902 days ago 1251 posts - 1733 votes 5 sounds Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, GermanC2, SpanishB2, Dutch, Swedish, French | Message 68 of 143 12 September 2012 at 12:11am | IP Logged | |||||
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For those who don't speak Dutch and learn Swedish, German seems to be very useful
though. That's my impression at least: many cognates I wouldn't recognize based on my English only, and the grammar seems also easier if you already know German. The differences are sometimes huge (because of the consonant shift, spelling etc.) but still, it's much easier to remember the vocabulary at least. Well, that's at least what my no-more-than-10-hours-of-Swedish experience shows ;). About Swiss German: I studied for two semesters in Switzerland. I had a 30-hour course in "Swiss German - listening comprehension" at the university, and I tried to get some Swiss German exposure, e.g. convincing my flatmate to speak some Swiss German to me :). I didn't get a lot of exposure though, living in Fribourg and focusing on French. I may understand a lot or hardly anything, depending on the topic and the specific dialect, and I don't speak Swiss German. Recently I've revisited the idea of improving my listening comprehension (although it's not that much fun when I'm not living in Switzerland anymore). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 69 of 143 12 September 2012 at 12:50am | IP Logged | |||||
Hmm, det är en riktig svår fraga att svara, väl när man frågar det på svenska... Jag ska försoka att svara på svenska också, men jag kan inte garantera att det ska inte finnas många misstag. För min del är svenska ett ovanligt roligt språk. Jag tycker mycket om båda utspråk och så att många ord är samma (eller liknande) som nederlandska. Också trivs jag med svenskt kulturet. Jag tycker mycket om skandinaviska (eller nordiska) språk i algemenhet. Det är för mig de intressantsta språk i världen. Men det är också en känsla, eftersom är det svårt för mig att kommer att bra förklara det. Och så tror jag som jag skulle lära mig språk det man kan finnas på skilda deler av världen, och skandinaviska språk är en del av den för mig. Edited by tarvos on 12 September 2012 at 12:50am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Mae Trilingual Octoglot Pro Member Germany Joined 4990 days ago 299 posts - 499 votes Speaks: German*, SpanishC2*, Swiss-German*, FrenchC2, EnglishC2, ItalianB2, Dutch, Portuguese Studies: Russian, Swedish Personal Language Map | Message 70 of 143 13 September 2012 at 10:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
 6WC outcome
The 6WC has led to 90 hours of intensive language study. I enjoyed learning Swedish, especially because I could retrieve some motivation for learning Dutch. I really like both languages. This sort of challenge helps me keep on track, and I love the fact of exchanging ideas with like-minded people. I'm not so happy with my current Dutch level, but I'll keep working on it. As for the Swedish course... I just can say "Wow!", we're doing great progress every day. I wish this course would go on for a few more weeks! Thank you guys for your support and for sharing your thoughts with me! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5846 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 71 of 143 14 September 2012 at 8:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Doing such an intensive university language course would be excellent for me as well. This is a chance which you should not leave out! Doing pure self-study is a bit dry, but I have succeeded studying Danish only by self-study for a whole year (Oct 2009 until Sept 2010). If prefer doing self-study additionally in combination with language courses.
Fasulye 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4843 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 72 of 143 14 September 2012 at 8:56pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Just stopping by and wishing you good luck with your Swedish studies!
Lycka till! Ha det så kul att lära dig svenska! Den är ett underbart språk. Edited by Josquin on 14 September 2012 at 8:59pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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