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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4707 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 65 of 70 11 June 2012 at 1:45pm | IP Logged |
Good luck with your crusade. We'll be here waiting to see how you'll do. Watching from the sidelines.
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| COF Senior Member United States Joined 5831 days ago 262 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 66 of 70 11 June 2012 at 4:14pm | IP Logged |
Medulin wrote:
As a European, I find the American accents more beautiful and easier to imitate.
Blame it on Hollywood. (We don't get many British tv shows here). |
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Many Europeans do indeed claim they find American English a lot easier to pronounce than British English.
However, I think what they really mean is American English is more wide spread, not actually easier to pronounce.
Logically speaking, I would assume the clear sounds of RP are easier to learn to speak than the more slurred sounds of American English.
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| lingua nova Newbie United States Joined 4555 days ago 25 posts - 39 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Indonesian, Tagalog, French
| Message 67 of 70 11 June 2012 at 6:22pm | IP Logged |
COF wrote:
Medulin wrote:
As a European, I find the American accents more beautiful
and easier to imitate.
Blame it on Hollywood. (We don't get many British tv shows here). |
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Many Europeans do indeed claim they find American English a lot easier to pronounce
than British English.
However, I think what they really mean is American English is more wide spread, not
actually easier to pronounce.
Logically speaking, I would assume the clear sounds of RP are easier to learn to speak
than the more slurred sounds of American English. |
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What "slurred sounds"? American English, like British English, is not monolithic. A
Brooklynite sounds very different from a New Orleanian, as does a Yorkshireman from an
East Ender.
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| Pisces Bilingual Pentaglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4622 days ago 143 posts - 284 votes Speaks: English*, Finnish*, French, SwedishC1, Esperanto Studies: German, Spanish, Russian
| Message 68 of 70 11 June 2012 at 7:07pm | IP Logged |
To many people, the greatest single difference between a "typical" English accent and a "typical" American accent is the dropping of r's in the English accent. This gives American English an "advantage" as far as foreign learners are concerned, because it's easier for most people to speak as they spell. It's easier to pronounce the r's than to know when and how to drop them. (Conversely, often pronouncing t's as d's is a kind of disadvantage for an American accent, so many people pronounce the t's as t's and pronounce the r's, so they have a mid-Atlantic accent of a sort. But I think the r's are a bigger factor.)
COF wrote:
Logically speaking, I would assume the clear sounds of RP are easier to learn to speak than the more slurred sounds of American English. |
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I would guess that most ESL learners find American pronunciation easier, or more logical, based on the spelling than RP, so in this respect I don't agree with you.
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| nway Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/Vic Joined 5415 days ago 574 posts - 1707 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Japanese, Korean
| Message 69 of 70 11 June 2012 at 8:26pm | IP Logged |
Am I the only one who kind of just wants this thread to die?
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| ReQuest Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5032 days ago 200 posts - 228 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German, French Studies: Spanish
| Message 70 of 70 11 June 2012 at 10:42pm | IP Logged |
Not many Dutch people would attribute the adjective "beloved" to Geert Wilders though.
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