sipes23 Diglot Senior Member United States pluteopleno.com/wprs Joined 4871 days ago 134 posts - 235 votes Speaks: English*, Latin Studies: Spanish, Ancient Greek, Persian
| Message 17 of 47 19 July 2012 at 3:33am | IP Logged |
Teango wrote:
Skipping the Pensa and Exercitia and focusing on simply understanding the text, I've been able
to read through a couple of chapters on the CD so far and comprehend everything with relative ease. I don't
know how steep the learning curve will be, but I hope to have read at least half-way through the first part of the
course within a month's time, and hopefully be somewhere around a low A2 level in my reading skills. |
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Egh. I forget exactly where, but somewhere about chapter 9, 10, or 11 is the hiding bomb of learning curve. You
may also want to slow down when you get to the accusative/infinitive construction (aka indirect speech). It's
divergent from how the modern Romance languages handle it and not exactly intuitive at first. It's not hard, just
different.
I've been reading the Italian version ( commercio/L'italiano%20secondo%20il%20metodo%20natura.tar.gz ">archive here), and haven't found it to
be overly difficult in terms of the learning curve. But I suppose that is the intent of the course. I'm at chapter 14
right now. Of course, I wasn't starting at zero with either Italian or the "nature method".
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Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona
| Message 18 of 47 19 July 2012 at 4:13am | IP Logged |
@sipes23
Thanks for the heads-up, and cheers for the Italian link too (a superb little reader!). :) After some further thought on the subject of grammar, I think it's probably wise to at least read through the short grammatical descriptions in Latin at the end of each chapter. Maybe it will soften the blow when it comes...
Edited by Teango on 19 July 2012 at 4:14am
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ZombieKing Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4528 days ago 247 posts - 324 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin*
| Message 19 of 47 19 July 2012 at 4:14am | IP Logged |
Teango wrote:
ZombieKing wrote:
With only focusing on reading, how proficient do you think you'll be in a month from now? |
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It's hard to tell at this stage really. I've read that the first part of Lingua Latina ("Familia Romana") normally takes about 2 years to complete if you include all the supplementary grammatical exercises (see FAQ). According to the description on Amazon, completing this already takes the learner up to an intermediate level:
Students who have completed Part 1 are already able to read classical texts, such as Orberg's editions of Caesar's Gallic Wars or of Plautus' Amphitryo. In Part 2, students read extensive selections from classical authors, refine their knowledge of syntax, and develop a vocabulary of over 4000 words. Upon completion of the course, students can read the most challenging classical texts with relative ease.
Skipping the Pensa and Exercitia and focusing on simply understanding the text, I've been able to read through a couple of chapters on the CD so far and comprehend everything with relative ease. I don't know how steep the learning curve will be, but I hope to have read at least half-way through the first part of the course within a month's time, and hopefully be somewhere around a low A2 level in my reading skills. |
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TWO YEARS?!
How??? That's crazy... I guess it's really really really comprehensive :P
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Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona
| Message 20 of 47 19 July 2012 at 4:22am | IP Logged |
@ZombieKing
That's what I thought...and I've since read this "2-3 years" estimate on several other forums as well. Maybe I'm missing something here? Perhaps this is what it takes to build up a thorough knowledge of grammar and translation for passing exams; however I'm only really interested in eventually being able to pick up Latin classics and read them without too much discomfort. Even investing a mere 10 minutes per day, I'd hope to hit that goal long before the 2 year mark. @.@
Edited by Teango on 19 July 2012 at 4:24am
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ZombieKing Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4528 days ago 247 posts - 324 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin*
| Message 21 of 47 19 July 2012 at 6:42am | IP Logged |
Yeah... I mean, if they expected you to do one lesson a month, then maybe 2 years would make sense :P
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Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona
| Message 22 of 47 23 July 2012 at 9:46pm | IP Logged |
Septimana I (Week 1)
Total hours of study so far: 1 (Familia Romana, ch. 5/35, p. 35)
I'm enjoying these sessions so much that it takes every ounce of willpower to keep them within 10 minutes. The stories are really easy to read so far (with a very occasional reference to my Latin dictionary to double check), and I'm learning a surprising amount in such a short window of time. I'm sure the learning curve will get a lot steeper soon, but for the time being, I'm enjoying the ride, and this inductive style of learning to read another language feels like magic.
Edited by Teango on 23 July 2012 at 10:32pm
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dbag Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5023 days ago 605 posts - 1046 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 23 of 47 29 July 2012 at 11:13pm | IP Logged |
Hey, what a great log! I'll be following closely, because I've often had the idea to do
almost exactly the same thing. A little time spent on Latin seems like a great
investment, particularly as you only need to focus on reading.
I might try this myself in a year or so's time, although I'll probably give it more
like 30 minutes a day.
Good luck!
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Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona
| Message 24 of 47 09 August 2012 at 8:02pm | IP Logged |
@dbag
I already wrote you a little message but unfortunately it was one of the many casualties of the forum going down last week (fingers crossed this one stays put). Thanks for your support here, and it'd be great to have some company on this journey later on - the more the merrier! I'm already finding that Latin is a great return on investment in helping me decipher words and grammar in other languages as well as my own. :)
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