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| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 25 of 47 09 August 2012 at 8:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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Septimana II (Week 2)
Total hours of study so far: 2 (Familia Romana, chapter 7/35) Latin has helped me get my head around some problematic Irish grammar and vocabulary this week, in addition to giving me a deeper understanding of English words and terminology. And I can’t believe I’m already reading in the passive voice! [Edit: Reposted from my main blog after the forum went down.] Edited by Teango on 09 August 2012 at 8:10pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
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Septimana III (Week 3)
Total hours of study so far: 3 (Familia Romana, chapter 8/35) I’m making a concerted effort to resist the temptation of looking up the odd word or two in my little Latin dictionary, and instead rely mainly on the context from now on. This is proving to be a much more effective and interesting strategy, and I’m covering twice as much text as in previous sessions last week. [Edit: Reposted from my main blog after the forum went down.] 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 27 of 47 09 August 2012 at 9:17pm | IP Logged | ||
I agree. Although sadly my knowledge of Latin has disintegrated and fragmented itself (I remember verb conjugations and dictionary rules, but my specific vocabulary is lacking and I don't remember all the declensions/tenses anymore) due to disuse (I have neglected my studies of Latin since I left high school, which is fine with me for now), I studied it at the same time as French for three years. That was a great combo because I got a deeper understanding of how French works as well as Latin. My Latin sadly isn't what it used to be, though - I only retain some passive skills which I can use when deciphering a text (and I have my old dictionary). I have no plans to revive Latin. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| darkwhispersdal Senior Member Wales Joined 6041 days ago 294 posts - 363 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Ancient Greek, French, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Mandarin, Japanese, Latin | Message 28 of 47 09 August 2012 at 9:22pm | IP Logged | ||
I found that for Russian grammar as well. It's suprising how Latin helps you understand English and studying Classical Greek as well really opens up a whole new world for you. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
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Septimana IV (Week 4)
Total hours of study so far: 4 (Familia Romana, chapter 10/35) I've noticed a lot of improvement over the last 4 weeks in my reading skills, despite the grammar rising a few notches in complexity. I've gone from slow deliberate reading with the aid of a dictionary, pausing the audio to try and piece together the grammar; to faster comprehension of whole sentences at a glance, fewer pauses overall, and rarely touching my pocket dictionary. This is encouraging. One word of warning for beginners of Latin though: beware false friends! No, I don't mean Brutus here, I'm talking about words that you think you know the meaning of, simply because they look very similar to a word in English, but could very well be misled. I've fallen for this pitfall a few times already with words like "aliī" (some) and "prope" (near), so I'm a little more wary of any initial overconfidence now. ;) Edited by Teango on 14 August 2012 at 12:30pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
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@tarvos
Yes, Latin's a great boost for learning other Romance languages and makes it all the more fun. When I came across the word "volāre" today, I couldn't help but start singing... @darkwhispersdal I can well imagine Latin being a great boon to learning Russian too, as well as vice versa. I don't think I'd have so quickly grasped the concept of locative case, for example, if I hadn't already paddled in Russian grammatical waters. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 31 of 47 14 August 2012 at 1:01pm | IP Logged | ||
Locative case? What is complicated in it and what's the connection with Russian? Just Romae instead of in Roma. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
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@Mark
Latin, like Russian, is a highly inflected language; whereas English retains minimal inflection and case marking has largely disappeared outside pronouns. Therefore a knowledge of Russian (as well as German grammar) can really help a budding Latinist get their head around some of the new grammatical structures, especially a complete beginner like me. And in my case (just couldn't keep that pun out), a knowledge of the Russian prepositional case readied me for the vocative case in Latin...it's as simple as that! It's also interesting to learn that "approximately 150 masculine nouns retain a distinct form for the locative case" in Russian, and that "a few feminine nouns that end with the soft sign, such as дверь and пыль, also have a locative form that differs from the prepositional in that the stress shifts to the final syllable". These forms are apparently sometimes referred to as the "'second locative' or 'new locative', because they developed independently from the true locative case, which existed in the Old Russian". [source: Wikipedia, Locative case, Russian] So yes, a knowledge of Russian grammar can come in very handy whilst learning Latin, especially for a native English speaker who's only just started to wet their feet in the Latin language. :) Edited by Teango on 14 August 2012 at 6:16pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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