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duncan_
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 Message 17 of 19
27 July 2012 at 6:56pm | IP Logged 
I'm curious about Chinese -> Japanese myself, since they are my next two targets, in that
order. Despite them being not really linguistically related, I'd be interested in someone
who's learned both's opinion on the transition from Hanzi to Kanji (and not vice versa).
I'll also do some research myself now, I think.
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clumsy
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 Message 18 of 19
29 July 2012 at 5:04pm | IP Logged 
"Mandarin Chinese characters, then learning Japanese"


I would say that it would be ~30% vocabulary.

The transition from simplified Chinese to Japanese is not so hard, but you have to learn quite a bit of new shapes (radicals and full characters).


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Ensign
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 Message 19 of 19
29 July 2012 at 6:33pm | IP Logged 
I'll be curious to see any language discount I'll soon be earning. I've been studying Japanese for years now and will
be adding either Korean or Mandarin Chinese in just a month or two. The general rule of thumb I've always heard
when speaking with learners of these languages, perhaps a bit overgeneralized, is:

Mandarin Chinese--Lots of Vocab, Some Characters-->Korean
Japanese--Lots of Grammar, Some Characters-->Korean
Mandarin Chinese--Some Vocab, Some Characters-->Japanese

These hold true in the reverse, usually. (Japanese-->Chinese) for example. Not always, of course, but usually.
Though again, a perhaps over-generalized example. I'd be happy to bow out to those with far more
knowledge/experience than myself.

It will be my third language (second "foreign"), which I've always heard is easier than the first foreign language you
pick up, as well as gaining language discount. Should be exciting, whichever I choose. Now if only I could choose ;).


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