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Poll Question: In language learning, which is more important to you?
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Wulfgar
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 Message 1 of 14
28 September 2012 at 7:55am | IP Logged 
I have read many posts where people say they are mainly interested in the learning process. Personally, I don't hate
or love the learning process. My desire is to reach my goals in my languages, which have nothing to do with the
learning process itself. How about you?
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Ari
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 Message 2 of 14
28 September 2012 at 9:35am | IP Logged 
I love the process. Some people learn languages in order to use them; I use them in order to learn them. I suspect that to be a successful polyglot one really needs to love the process of learning. I recall Arguelles has written something to that effect, too.

EDIT: Okay, not really NEEDS to, but I suspect it's a plus. And I suspect it becomes more important the more languages one acquires.

Edited by Ari on 28 September 2012 at 9:36am

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DaraghM
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 Message 3 of 14
28 September 2012 at 9:58am | IP Logged 
I really enjoy the learning process, but goals are more important to me. With goals I can use a variety of techniques, courses and strategies, but the goal itself never changes.
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Jenne:)
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 Message 4 of 14
28 September 2012 at 11:31am | IP Logged 
As a very ambitious person, I think the goals are more important to me. While I like learning, I can easily get discouraged when a session does not go well, because it makes me think I will not reach my goal. I do love language learning because I am curious, but mostly because it results in improvement. Improvement is a goal, so I guess this means that achieving set goals is what I like most about language learning.
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Cavesa
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 Message 5 of 14
28 September 2012 at 12:50pm | IP Logged 
I like the process but I need to see results. So, the goals are the priority. I need the
moments "I did it!" more than just the feeling of a nice learning session. But of course,
some of the goals are of the kind "give this not too fun topic at least half an hour". :-
)
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tarvos
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 Message 6 of 14
28 September 2012 at 12:56pm | IP Logged 
I don't think about this, I set goals as and when I need them and they change. I just
think in terms of "this is the project" and during the process I'll notice if it's good
and if not I'll f**k about with it.

I think it's both and neither.
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arturs
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 Message 7 of 14
28 September 2012 at 2:49pm | IP Logged 
It depends on the language. For some languages I really have set goals that I need to reach. For other languages I just enjoy the process without any stress. For example, I really pay attention how I progress in German and it is important that I reach certain level of fluency, etc., but with a language like Dutch I fill my spare time, when I don't need to learn German and I really don't stress about how fast I will or I will ever reach some kind of fluency.
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Jenne:)
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 Message 8 of 14
28 September 2012 at 3:11pm | IP Logged 
arturs wrote:
It depends on the language. For some languages I really have set goals that I need to reach. For other languages I just enjoy the process without any stress.

That's a good point. What I said above actually only goes for languages I learn from scratch, such as Norwegian. I really want to achieve fluency as fast as possible, just because I want to know a language hardly anyone can speak where I live. Also: because I chose to learn this language myself - without the help of a teacher, I feel some kind of responsibility. It is extra cool as well: I picked Norwegian because I really love the language, not because someone else decided I should learn it. So I become disappointed after a not-so-successful session because I absolutely want to learn Norwegian and feel that I have slowed down the progress when I 'fail'.
With languages like German and French, in contrast, I would probably enjoy the process just as much as the goal. There is no feeling of urgency when learning these, because I already reached a reasonably good level at secondary school. I can already use these languages reasonably comfortably, so learning speak, read and write them even better will just be fun. I will never feel hopelessly useless at them, however bad a session might go.


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