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Moving from A2-B2 | ||
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 emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5532 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes  Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map | Message 9 of 17 04 December 2012 at 12:55am | IP Logged | ||
I've read 3000+ pages in French, and it's definitely helped. But you also need to work on the other skills. Watch movies and TV. Have conversations. Write (and get corrections). If you focus only on reading, you'll eventually lag far behind in other skills. Most of the work between A2 and B2 is simply putting in the hours, looking things up, and focusing on your biggest current problem. My story is here and it's been a lot of work and lot of fun. But there's never been a magic technique or a sudden breakthrough. I just kept interacting with French in many different until I started to get used to it. Good luck with your Polish! 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 10 of 17 04 December 2012 at 1:11am | IP Logged | ||
OP, I'm doing a half challenge myself so maybe I could advice you some books etc. And the most impressive Polish learner we have is Amerykanka. Unlike me, she's not a native speaker of a related language, so her experience is more valuable than mine:P 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5009 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 11 of 17 04 December 2012 at 3:23am | IP Logged | ||
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Well, to the second part of the question: how to move to B2 and beyond, my two cents:
1.cover your gaps. Making beginner mistakes in grammar, vocabulary or pronunciation will hold you back a lot. it doesn't mean don't progress now and just polish :-) what you already know. Just practice the old things and rewise them when you start to forget the details, it is not a step back. 2.listen a lot. I find tv series very efficient (but it may be a bit early for you by now). Music is a good thing as well, radio, news, anything you can digest without falling asleep is good. 3.widen your vocabulary. read books (!), polish websites on whatever you are interested in, newspapers, listen to the news or discussions in the radio, think in Polish and write down things you don't know how to say etc. Again, an SRS like anki is one of the possible tools to help you with this. 4.practice your active skills. you can get free corrections of your writing at italki.com and there are numerous sites where you can find a language exchange partner 5.feed your motivation. Loss of interest, getting bored, not seeing enough success, these are the worst dangers. Have fun in the language as soon as you can, make it a part of your life, use it to widen your horizons and get you to unknown things, be it writers, musicians, history, scientists, anything! Just don't bore yourself, not for too long. 6.make a log. Either on the forums or somewhere else. When you feel like not having progressed lately, you'll have a record of the smaller (or larger) steps you have already made. 7.set a goal. One of the advantages/disadvantages of learning by yourself is that you need to choose one, noone is holding your hand and promising good grades/higher pocket money if you do your homework. Your goal should be realistic (not getting from A2 to B2 in a month) and well defined (a good thing for some people is to define both What and When). Like: Pass a B2 exam in 2014. Be able to read Sapkowski in Polish and understand enough to have fun six months from now. Travel to Poland next year and use only Polish during the stay. Whatever you Want. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Gosiak Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5126 days ago 241 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Welsh | Message 12 of 17 04 December 2012 at 4:51am | IP Logged | ||
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Resources that came to my mind:
Radio - PolskieRadio, countless hours of interesting online radio broadcasts on various topics Polish sitcom comedies 13 Posterunek (police station 13) Świat według Kiepskich The world of Kiepscy (a name meaning 'mediocre') cartoon - Włatcy Móch, 'Lords of the flies' written with two errors, should be 'Władcy Much' Daleko od noszy, Far from the stretcher Rodzina zastępcza, Foster family Complete 'The Hobbit' audiobook in Polish (part 1/21) + text A Game of Thrones audiobook (Gra o tron) The Lord of the Rings - The fellowship of the Ring part 1/26 (Władca Pierścieni - Drużyna Pierścienia) Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone part 1 audiobook ( Harry Potter i Kamień Filozoficzny) (incomplete, only 6 chapters) + text Edit: This Harry Potter audiobook should be complete :) Edited by Gosiak on 04 December 2012 at 5:09am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| pesahson Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5728 days ago 448 posts - 840 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese, Norwegian | Message 13 of 17 04 December 2012 at 8:31am | IP Logged | ||
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Lots of great advice have been given on how and what to do.
Apart from books, series, etc I find interviews very helpful. You hear/listen to a more informal form of a language, something you might hear when you'll have a conversation with a native speaker and they can really expand your vocabulary depending on who the interview is with. Here's a channel of some YT based interview channel. I just had a quick look at who the guests were and it seems it might be interesting. Have a look. Interviews 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| DarrenDaka Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4774 days ago 28 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 14 of 17 09 December 2012 at 3:51am | IP Logged | ||
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Hey guys thanks for all the responses :)
I have already done what the advice mentions above reading,watching tv/movies,listening to the radio( RMF FM) I have seen many polish series and was even in Poland for 2 weeks when I was 15 . The only thing that holds be back always seems to be the cases I can use all the other grammar pretty well and my vocabulary is of a decent amount ,along with my speaking, reading etc. I need to find a way to get to grips with these cases otherwise I will always be stuck as a tourist language user with extensive knowlage :( 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Julie Heptaglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6903 days ago 1251 posts - 1733 votes 5 sounds Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, GermanC2, SpanishB2, Dutch, Swedish, French | Message 15 of 17 09 December 2012 at 2:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well, I can tell you how I managed to learn German cases (the cases as such are not
difficult to learn but it is hard to use them: to remember which preposition in which context requires which case etc.). What helped me? It was masssive input (listening and, to a lesser extent, reading) and output (I tried to use every opportunity I had to speak German, despite the fact how bad it might have sounded). When I was already a confident speaker of German, I went back to the grammar (in my case, it was a course at the university but self-learning would also be enough). In a couple of months, I covered most of grammar up to B2/C1 level, including cases and prepositions that I hated so much. What seemed hard before, got surprisingly easy. I basically did quite a lot of grammar exercises (the fact I was enrolled in a course helped as otherwise I wouldn't probably have been motivated enough). While I referred to all the grammar tables etc., a lot of constructions simply "sounded right". I basically just corrected the gaps and mistakes in my 'mental grammar', and tried again to speak German as much as possible while paying attention to the very structure I was dealing with. The right structures got internalized very quickly. The biggest drawback of this method: I probably sounded like an idiot for two years or so. The biggest advantage: learning grammar was painless and, most importantly, I developed a 'feeling for language' and didn't really have to think about grammar while speaking any more. I'm not sure how this would work with a language like Polish, but I would basically try to get more input and speak more: you can't get enough of it. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Amerykanka Hexaglot Senior Member United States Joined 5171 days ago 657 posts - 890 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Polish, Latin, Ancient Greek, Russian | Message 16 of 17 09 December 2012 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | ||
Do you have trouble with remembering the case endings themselves, or do you not understand how the specific cases are used? Or both? EDIT: You all have posted some amazing links - I've never been able to find any of those things online before! Edited by Amerykanka on 09 December 2012 at 3:55pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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