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| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6106 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 17 of 31 24 February 2013 at 10:45am | IP Logged | ||
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Organisation in language learning is so important, as I am realising more and more. Self-learners have to create their own course which involves finding the right material and putting a combination of activities together or in sequence. Last year I had no real plan, and just floated from one course book to another. This year I'm more focussed, although I allow myself some flexibilty to try something 'extra-curricular' now and again.
It sounds as if you're getting organised - keep it going! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chav Diglot Groupie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4490 days ago 43 posts - 45 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English* Studies: Dutch, Polish | Message 18 of 31 24 February 2013 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | ||
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I feel all determined! I got quite messed up with the feeling that I shouldn't do anything that wasn't my OU coursework, but I am starting to relax into it a bit and accept that I can spend time on other things. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chav Diglot Groupie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4490 days ago 43 posts - 45 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English* Studies: Dutch, Polish | Message 19 of 31 26 February 2013 at 11:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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Well, it's back into it I go. I've been listening to MT and I'm not that far in but the repetition is nice, as is the exposure to basic sentence structure. Turns out it's a lot like in English, at least so far.
Still on Lesson 2 of Swan's course, some grammar is happening but no cases yet. I don't know when the cases will happen. I am sort of scared of them but also wanting to meet them, preferably one at a time. I have encountered them a bit in what I did of TY Beginner's Polish and in some stuff that I printed out from the web, but I don't know much at the moment beyond the fact that they exist. When I first did German, in school, we got all the cases pretty much at once and we suddenly couldn't say a word, so I am hoping it goes a bit better when I get to the Polish ones. There's nominative, accusative, dative, genetive, locative, vocative... I think that's it? Six cases? I can't say much yet. Umm. Nie rozumiem, nie mowię dobrze po polsku? But I can understand some very basic phrases and it's quite a good feeling when I recognise even one word in a song or whatever. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6106 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 20 of 31 27 February 2013 at 12:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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There's another case: the instrumental, making 7 in total.
In my experience, learning cases is a matter gradual familiarisation through repeated exposure and exercises. Writing is also helpful. Don't worry if you don't understand all the cases on the first pass. Just keep passing the grammar through your mind and comprehension will grow little by little.
I can't say much either! Finding regular opportunities to practice speaking is important, but in the meantime you can work on the listening skills and vocabulary. All the best! Edited by Mooby on 27 February 2013 at 12:09pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chav Diglot Groupie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4490 days ago 43 posts - 45 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English* Studies: Dutch, Polish | Message 21 of 31 27 February 2013 at 5:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ahhh, I thought I might have forgotten a case! Seven cases. That's a bit extravagant!
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| Chav Diglot Groupie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4490 days ago 43 posts - 45 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English* Studies: Dutch, Polish | Message 22 of 31 03 March 2013 at 9:03am | IP Logged | ||
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I may have time issues the next week or so as I have assignments due for the Open University stuff I'm doing. Hopefully I'll be able to keep up the Polish through the mad rush to produce stuff in my other languages.
I looked at the accusative case in TY Beginner's Polish, because I have a vague idea how that one works. Direct objects, yes? Haven't tried to learn the endings yet but it seemed a good idea to at least look at them. Then there's the instrumental case which seems to have something to do with negated verbs? (Mam czas/Nie mam czasu.) Well, I'll work it out eventually I suppose, I just wanted to have a look at what lies ahead in the grammar hell I am sure to hit soon enough. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| pesahson Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5729 days ago 448 posts - 840 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese, Norwegian | Message 23 of 31 03 March 2013 at 1:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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Unless I have the names of the cases wrong in English (but I did look it up :))in the sentence Nie mam czasu - czasu is in the genitive (dopełniacz kogo? czego?). Mam czas - czas is in the accusative (biernik kogo? co?). Instumental (narzędnik z kim? z czym?) has nothing to do with those two sentences. Edited by pesahson on 03 March 2013 at 1:59pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chav Diglot Groupie United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4490 days ago 43 posts - 45 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English* Studies: Dutch, Polish | Message 24 of 31 03 March 2013 at 4:30pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ooh,that makes sense, yes!
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