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| CetteFilleErica Newbie United States Joined 4291 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English* | Message 1 of 7 07 March 2013 at 4:24am | IP Logged | ||
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I have a good grasp of French but want to learn Spanish among other languages. Should I learn Esperanto and then learn Spanish, or could I use my French knowledge to learn it? Also, how good is Esperanto for learning Arabic and Turkish?
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| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7222 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 2 of 7 07 March 2013 at 5:54am | IP Logged | ||
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Choose which language you have more interest in. Esperanto agglutinates words, like Turkish. No idea compared to Arabic. Any language helps learn the next. In your case I presume, you have more exposure to Spanish, so I recommend Spanish. A nice option is to strengthen your French by using French base programs to learn Spanish. Do not use a French base program with audio to learn Esperanto, specifically Parlons and Assimil the pronunciations have a very thick French accent speaking Esperanto. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 3 of 7 07 March 2013 at 12:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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Do you actually want to learn Esperanto, or have you just heard that it makes learning other languages easier?
Esperanto would be easy for you, but only if you're motivated enough. As you're in the US, I recommend Spanish first. In fact given your motivation, I'd recommend it even if you weren't in the US. here are my favourite Spanish resources: http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/# http://www.learner.org/resources/series75.html a tv series for learners http://albalearning.com/ http://lyricstraining.com/ http://gloss.dliflc.edu/Default.aspx - free lessons with interesting content PS On this forum bilingual has a very clear definition - having two native languages. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6440 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 4 of 7 08 March 2013 at 1:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Learn Esperanto if you're interested by/in it. You've already learned French; you won't get that much of a benefit to your Spanish by studying Esperanto before it. Turkish agglutination will seem a bit more natural to you after Esperanto.
It's an awesomely fun language. It won't actually help you that much with the other languages you mentioned, given where you already are; with your French, you already know how to learn languages. That said, if you're not entirely comfortable in French (attending lectures, discussing philosophy/science/your intellectual interests, reading literature...), you can get your Esperanto up to that level faster than your French, most likely, and this is worthwhile. I heartily recommend giving it a try - if you want to. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| CetteFilleErica Newbie United States Joined 4291 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English* | Message 5 of 7 09 March 2013 at 2:56am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks everybody! I am interested in learning esperanto. I just wanted to know how much benefit it would give me learning other languages.
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6440 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 6 of 7 09 March 2013 at 8:19am | IP Logged | ||
A bit. Where it's most useful is giving someone their first taste of a foreign language without unnecessary things like irregular verbs (which don't help conceptual understanding, but require extra memorization). It helps you get a feel for grammar, spontaneously expressing yourself in another language, etc - but so will any other first foreign language taken to a high enough level, just after more time and effort. I've found agglutination, flexible word ordering, and causatives to be useful for other languages, and Esperanto has them all. So does Turkish, so those elements of Turkish will be a bit easier if you study Esperanto first. How much easier? I don't know. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6471 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 7 of 7 16 March 2013 at 9:21pm | IP Logged | ||
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I found Esperanto helpful in learning Arabic in that it makes the word construction
easier to understand. For example Form II of Arabic verbs corresponds to the Esperanto suffix -ig- or -eg-, Form III often corresponds to kun-, Form V is like -iĝ- and Form VI is like inter-. Also, the Arabic prefix mu- for nouns corresponds to -ul- in Esperanto, while ma- corresponds to -ej- in Esperanto. As an example, the word "maktab" derives from the root "kataba" (to write) - don't ask how it's derived, Arabic is very complicated like that, unlike Esperanto. "maktab" means "office" or "study room" but also "desk". In Esperanto, the word for "to write" is "skribi" and the direct translation of "maktab" would therefore be "skribejo" - place of writing, which could arguably describe both an office or a desk. Once I translated everything to Esperanto, Arabic became much clearer to me. It is certainly possible to understand this way of traversing word fields without knowing Esperanto, but it's much more intuitive when you do. Also, it is easier to learn the concept by taking examples from a completely regular language, not one that is as opaque as Arabic. Edited by Sprachprofi on 16 March 2013 at 9:22pm 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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