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| AML Senior Member United States Joined 6826 days ago 323 posts - 426 votes  2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish | Message 9 of 47 28 October 2013 at 1:32pm | IP Logged | ||
I would say B2. Do you have a link for emk's B2 exam? I'd like to see that. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| AML Senior Member United States Joined 6826 days ago 323 posts - 426 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Modern Hebrew, German, Spanish | Message 10 of 47 28 October 2013 at 1:39pm | IP Logged | ||
If "silent period" is defined as - not using one's vocal chords - then I am not doing a silent period. I am indeed reading aloud all the time. I have spoken to myself a little bit (1-2 sentences/daily) but not too much. This self-speech may increase. I hadn't really thought about that, so thanks. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 11 of 47 28 October 2013 at 2:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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As a pro member, your best bet is to look through emk's "best posts" (ie those with most votes). But basically in my opinion that exam is way too complicated and measures your non-language skills too much. Many native speakers would not know what to say without prior preparation. Here's a related thread, see the one whose spin-off it is as well.
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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6551 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 12 of 47 28 October 2013 at 2:40pm | IP Logged | ||
I hope that you have nailed down the orthography/pronunciation then. Otherwise you will likely be fossilizing bad pronunciation. This doesn't matter if you are just doing an experiment, but if you actually intend to use the language some day it could be a problem. I don't know what Glossika did, but he could be risking poor pronunciation too. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 13 of 47 28 October 2013 at 2:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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You only risk poor pronunciation if you don't do enough listening.
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| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4623 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 14 of 47 28 October 2013 at 2:51pm | IP Logged | ||
Considering it has been 90 years since the Irish Free State was founded - an entity that declared Irish as "the first and official language" and made it compulsory in all schools - there seems to be precious little learning materials available. Edited by beano on 28 October 2013 at 2:52pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 15 of 47 28 October 2013 at 2:53pm | IP Logged | ||
In my experience listening isn't enough for good pronunciation. Truly good pronunciation is enhanced by listening, but you need to learn to produce the sounds in order to distinguish them in my experience. For example, until I consciously learned how to roll an r, I did not distinguish between the uvular r and the trilled r. It was only when I learned to pronounce the latter that I became aware of the difference phonologically. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 16 of 47 28 October 2013 at 3:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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I didn't say it's enough per se, but if you do enough listening (and I believe the majority of learners don't), you'll tell where you sound off. In Italian I totally hear that my u is horrible, especially più totally sounds like Russian пью :P So in my opinion, listening won't make your pronunciation perfect but you'll know what to work on.
And to me the "French r" was always so obvious. But this probably depends on your "starting point", so to say. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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