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| Happyphantom Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4007 days ago 4 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian, Thai, Russian | Message 1 of 15 11 December 2013 at 4:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've recently taken up Norwegian to be my first foreign language (after
playing with a few others before), however I'm nearly at the end of my Teach Yourself course. So my question is this; would it be worth learning Swedish to improve my Norwegian? I understand this isn't obviously logical but my primary problem with Norwegian is the lack of opportunity for me to speak it! So my solution is to buy the Rosetta Stone Swedish course. I have used the software before and found it great for pronunciation practice. I don't know what sort of reviews the software gets though and whether it'd be worthwhile. I had intended to study Swedish in the future regardless, but I wouldn't want to confuse myself with the two languages. So does this seem like a viable route to success? Any advice or alternatives will be gratefully received! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5338 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes  Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 2 of 15 11 December 2013 at 4:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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That, is quite possibly the absolute worst suggestion when it comes to learning languages that I have heard
in my entire life. Oh. And welcome to the forum, by the way :-) I have heard very little good about Rosetta Stone to begin with, and mixing the two languages at an early stage sounds like a disaster bound to happen. Others will know more than I do about finding language partners, but there are several possibilities - send Tarvos a PM - he could probably help you find the Internet based places where you can find it. If you find no one then send me a PM and I'll see if I can squeeze in something myself. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Happyphantom Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4007 days ago 4 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian, Thai, Russian | Message 3 of 15 11 December 2013 at 5:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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I had a suspicion it might not be successful! I just wasn't sure if there was
any logic behind my reasoning, a bit of a madman moment but I'm glad I asked. Would you suggest finding another course? Or just toughing it out and attempting to read books/watch films in Norwegian? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| nicozerpa Triglot Senior Member Argentina Joined 4330 days ago 182 posts - 315 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Portuguese, English Studies: Italian, German | Message 4 of 15 11 December 2013 at 7:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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Welcome to the forum! I think that learning a similar language to improve another is a
bad idea, because you run the risk of mixing both languages.
I agree with this. Try to find material about topics you are interested in. Good luck! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6913 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 5 of 15 11 December 2013 at 7:10pm | IP Logged | ||
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The only time I'd "study a language in order to practice another" would be if I had plenty of practical opportunities with one language and no resources BUT plenty of resources (preferably free) in another extremely similar language.
In other words: if you're already studying Norwegian, why not do the opposite and use it to chat with Swedish speakers? Edited by jeff_lindqvist on 12 December 2013 at 12:02am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6601 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 6 of 15 11 December 2013 at 7:27pm | IP Logged | ||
Here's a wikia article about improving your pronunciation. Try shadowing (linked there) and self-talk. Not to boast too much, but apart from listening to music in the background, if you do any single thing I mentioned it will be more useful than Rosetta Stone. (which is mostly an expensive flashcard software that doesn't even use spaced repetition.) Edited by Serpent on 11 December 2013 at 7:29pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| daegga Tetraglot Senior Member Austria lang-8.com/553301 Joined 4525 days ago 1076 posts - 1792 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Swedish, Norwegian Studies: Danish, French, Finnish, Icelandic | Message 7 of 15 11 December 2013 at 7:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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Please read through
Expugnator's log to get an overview over available material for Norwegian and sound strategies to learn it. You will also get an impression of how much you can progress even with limited time. Also, you should consider joining (or at least observing) the Scandinavian TAC team for 2014 (see the sticky thread in the log subforum). At least two other members (Expugnator and me) in the team are studying Norwegian too, scheduling some speaking- practice sessions should be doable. Software for pronunciation practice is crap by the way. They suggest it is possible to automatically judge your pronunciation, which unfortunately isn't the case yet. Such software is very inaccurate and might lead you in the wrong direction. Edited by daegga on 11 December 2013 at 7:51pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4672 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 8 of 15 11 December 2013 at 9:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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There is more Swedish learning material, if that's what are you trying to say.
Swedish: A Comprehensive Grammar: 3rd Edition (Routledge) is a must. Norwegian grammars in English are very basic, and not that interesting either. I found the transition from Nynorsk to Swedish very easy (the conjugation is almost the same, with verbs that have -ar present tense having the 2nd tone, and the verbs in -er present tense having the 1st tone, Nynorsk female nouns (exept for those in -ing) get -er or -or plurals in Swedish, Nynorsk masculine nouns (and female -ing nouns) get the -ar plurals in Swedish, (except for those masculine Nynorsk nouns that have -er plural in Nynorsk: ven->vener, in Swedish these get the -er plural too: vän -> vänner). Edited by Medulin on 11 December 2013 at 9:40pm 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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