Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 81 of 464 19 January 2014 at 7:58am | IP Logged |
Via Diva wrote:
Cristianoo wrote:
это мое представление:
Меня зовут Cristiano. Я живу в Бразилии и учусь русскому языку |
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Кристиано in Cyrillic, I think. |
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It kinda depends on how you pronounce it in the original. A certain footballer is normally written as Криштиану in Russian. Кристьяно is another possible spelling. But if you ever need to get any sort of official papers, write it as you are told to, of course.
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5056 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 82 of 464 19 January 2014 at 8:18am | IP Logged |
Cristianoo wrote:
@Via Diva: Thanks! If you don't mind, could you explain something? I didn't understand
when should I use учиться or изучать or учать.
изучать is the perfective form?
I understood that учиться is reflexive, but when I want to say that I study something,
should I use я учусь <something> or should I use the verb учать?
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There is no verb учать, only учить. Учить can mean both to learn and to teach. To learn
something is учить + acc. (учить язык), to teach something to someone is учить кого-то
(acc.) чему-то (dat.) (учить мальчика языку - to teach the language to the boy).
Учиться (to study) has a broader meaning - to study in general. If we want to say to
study something, we use the dative case: учиться языку (but it is not very often used
with nouns, more with infinitives учиться выживать - to learn how to survive).
Изучать (+acc.) is to study something. Изучать язык.
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fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4715 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese
| Message 83 of 464 19 January 2014 at 4:37pm | IP Logged |
Марк wrote:
Учиться (to study) has a broader meaning - to study in general. If we want to say to study something, we use the dative case: учиться языку (but it is not very often used with nouns, more with infinitives учиться выживать - to learn how to survive). |
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Also, Учиться is used when you explain WHERE you study whatever it is that you study, like "Я учусь в университете", right?
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Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4234 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek
| Message 84 of 464 19 January 2014 at 4:46pm | IP Logged |
fabriciocarraro, yeah, but you can avoid it by saying what you study first: Я учу русский язык в университете.
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Cristianoo Triglot Senior Member Brazil https://projetopoligRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4121 days ago 175 posts - 289 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, FrenchB2, English Studies: Russian
| Message 85 of 464 20 January 2014 at 4:26am | IP Logged |
@Via Diva - Great explanation! That's what I was looking for. Thanks. Yes, I wrote it
wrong. I meant "учить". It's because i'm still using google translator to type (they
have a virtual keyboard. I type things in cyrillic there and ctrl+c ctrl+v here), I
should buy a russian keyboard.
I don't use my computer to produce text yet, only to read, because I believe that if
you write with your own hand instead of typing, things are going to glue faster in your
mind. So typing system here is still very precarious.
@ Марк - Got it. Great explanation aswell. These formulas are very useful!, thanks.
I'll write then down here as references
Edit: Text Formatting
Edited by Cristianoo on 20 January 2014 at 4:29am
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renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4358 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew
| Message 86 of 464 21 January 2014 at 11:28am | IP Logged |
An update
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mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5226 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese
| Message 87 of 464 21 January 2014 at 7:48pm | IP Logged |
A start, then :)
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renaissancemedi Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Greece Joined 4358 days ago 941 posts - 1309 votes Speaks: Greek*, Ancient Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: French, Russian, Turkish, Modern Hebrew
| Message 88 of 464 22 January 2014 at 9:28am | IP Logged |
An update
I already feel better changing courses. I switched to Assimil from the 1950s, and all I want as a goal is to finish it. That's all. I prefer this as a goal to, say, I want to reach A2 or B1 etc.
By the way, after assimil russian (1950s), which level do you reach? :)
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