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| pesahson Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5727 days ago 448 posts - 840 votes  Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese, Norwegian | Message 57 of 95 25 September 2014 at 5:00pm | IP Logged | ||
Moszna Castle, I didn't even know it existed. Moszna btw in Polish means scrotum. It's an unfortunate name for a city ;). But it's better then Biały Kał or Pupki or Chójnik, which all exist. Edited by pesahson on 25 September 2014 at 5:00pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6104 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 58 of 95 10 November 2014 at 6:47pm | IP Logged | ||
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@ pesahson : Thanks for the amusing place names, I'll add 'moszna' to Anki and never forget it :)
Anki = 4902 Hours Studied = 184 (Total hours this year: 705) I've not updated this log for ages, but I was burning out last month, and I experienced a regression in many areas; vocabulary retention, declensions, listening comprehension. Maybe it's varying the routine that had become a bit stale, but my motivation is a little better since I started writing on Lang-8 and reading new material. Word Selection dogadywać się imp. - "to get along (with)", "come to terms / an understanding". I don't get along with my parents ('nie dogaduję się z rodzicami') stronniczy - "biased", "partial". Biased in favour of... ('stronniczy na korzyść...') objazd - "detour", "diversion", "by-pass". oschły - "snippy", "caustic", "standoff-ish". czerpać imp. - "to draw", to derive" + "to ladle". He drew his inspiration from nature ('czerpał inspiracje z natury') Idiom of the Month masz babo placek! - 'a fine kettle of fish!' or 'Houston we have a problem!' This is a strange idiom for me and I'd appreciate comments. It would appear to read something like: 'you have, my old girl, a pie'. I came across it in a book from the 1950's, so it may not be very common today. Film of the Month I went to watch the excellent Bogowie at the cinema last week. A story about Zbigniew Religa, a pioneer in heart transplants. I had to rely on the sub-titles for most of it. Edited by Mooby on 10 November 2014 at 8:38pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| pesahson Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5727 days ago 448 posts - 840 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: French, Portuguese, Norwegian | Message 59 of 95 10 November 2014 at 7:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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Great to see another post!
"Masz babo placek" is a great excuse for a listening comprehension exercise. It was explained in Co w mowie piszczy and it's still very much in use today. If you have trouble understanding the explanation, just ask. It's great to see that Polish movies are shown abroad. I remember that quite recently Ida got rave reviews in the Guardian for example. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6104 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 60 of 95 04 December 2014 at 11:53am | IP Logged | ||
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@ pesahson: Thanks for the radio link. I understand the idiom a little better now, although I did struggle to catch everything that was said.
Anki = 4973 Hours Studied = 70 (Total hours this year: 775) In my first year or two of studying Polish, I bought quite a few grammar books. Some I started and never finished, others I haven't even looked at yet. I've read and digested both my editions of 'Colloquial Polish', so now I want to systematically complete books 1 & 2 of 'Polish in Four Weeks'. I got a third of the way through Book 1 last year, so I will quickly review this part, then continue from where I left off. Even though I have a good grasp of grammar basics, I still profit from regular and formal explanations, drills and exercises. I'm currently reading a volume of 'Literatura Na Świecie'. The excerpts are short enough to start and finish in a single session, and the content varied and interesting. Some pieces use rare words, forms and fancy literary devices that are beyond me, but most is accessible. When I want a break from this, I go to my 'Nowe Przygody Mikołajka' for relief. I listen to a podcast or two every day. I can sustain my concentration for longer, although I still 'zone out' if I'm tired, haven't slept well or the programme is too long. If I start to find it boring or the speaker's voice irritating / incomprehensible / too fast - I skip it and go to the next podcast. I'm learning to resist translating what I hear, and let natural comprehension dawn in whatever form. Sometimes I try to visualise what is being said, or engage emotionally, so that I'm connecting to the reality behind these sounds as directly and intuitively as possible (without filtering everything through English). If I just focus on the 'crest of the wave' i.e on the sound being uttered in real time and not what was said a moment ago, then I can sustain an overall understanding, if not all the details. It's walking the tightrope; if I think a fraction too long (analyse or translate), I lose my balance and fall. The conversation class has been postponed to January, as the teacher has had to go to Poland. Words of the Week hodować Imp. - 'to grow', to breed', 'to keep'. He keeps pigeons ('hoduje gołębie') obcas - 'heel' of shoe. How to walk in high heels ('jak chodzić na wysokich obcasach') siać Imp. - 'to sow', 'to wreak', 'to spread'. The farmer sows the seed ('rolnik sieje ziarno'). The perfective aspect of this verb is Zasiać which gives us a nice phrase: jak makiem zasiał literally 'as poppy seed sown'- a descriptive for something sleepy, quiet, hypnotic or dead. E.g. a deathly silence ('cisza jak makiem zasiał'). Edited by Mooby on 04 December 2014 at 11:59am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6104 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 61 of 95 31 December 2014 at 10:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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FINAL POST OF 2014
Anki = 5026 Hours Studied = 70 Total Hours Studied in 2014 = 845 Slow and steady, that's how it's been this year and overall I'm pretty happy. The highlight was my trip to Wrocław. It gave me a little practise of course, but also a lot of motivation to keep going. I would love to make another trip in 2015. Progress has been slower than anticipated, something I underestimated. Reading has improved the most, then listening. However, I didn't do nearly as much writing or speaking as planned. The language is gradually becoming more comfortable, familiar and intuitive, but I still can't skim read well and I get tired listening to podcasts for longer than 15 minutes without a break. I'm still interested in other languages, but have held off starting another for the moment. Sometimes my strong desire to spread my interest among several languages painfully conflicts with my equally strong desire to focus my interest on building up (sharpening) just the one. Words of the Week chrzanić imp. - 'to talk crap', 'to cock something up'. I'm talking crap because I'm tired ('ja to chrzanię, bo jestem zmęczony'). I'd be interested in the etymology of this word, if anyone could help, chrzan meaning 'horseradish'. ustawiać imp. - 'to set', 'to set up'. I'm setting the volume on my phone ('ustawiam głośność w telefonie'). kijanka - 'tadpole'. czaić się imp. - 'to lurk', 'to lie in wait'. Someone was lurking in the dark ('ktoś czaił się w ciemności'). ugór - 'fallow land' plandeka - 'tarpaulin'. dzida - 'spear'. w razie czego - 'just to be safe' in case of something. Just to be safe I can pick you up from the airport ('w razie czego mogę odebrać cię z lotniska'). małomówny - 'taciturn', 'tight-lipped'. Goodbye 2014. 'Żegnaj lato na Rok' Goodbye summer for the year' a song by Zdzisława Sośnicka. Do zobaczenia w 2015 roku !! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4650 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English | Message 62 of 95 01 January 2015 at 11:31am | IP Logged | ||
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In 'ja chrzanię to, bo jestem zmęczony' the meaning of chrzanić (sth) is rather closer to 'I don't give a flying f**k about sth'.
In a general sense (without sth), you got the meaning right. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6104 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 63 of 95 26 January 2015 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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@ Zireael: many thanks.
Anki = 5087 Hours studied = 82 (Total hours this year: 82) Pages read so far this year = 149 I've taken a break from reading 'Nowe Przygody Mikołajka', and gone back to 'Kajtuś Czarodziej' by Janusz Korczak. The ease of reading and comprehending it has markedly improved from the last time I read it, about 2 years ago. I have a renewed apetite for reading, but I know I need to listen more, drill more, activate more....more....more.... But reading is still what I turn to most. It covers so many bases from vocabulary review (and acquisition), consolidating grammar, intuiting meaning, priming listening etc. I'm keeping a record of the number of pages I read, with each page equivalent to 250 words minimum. My Polish Conversation class for Intermediates started two weeks ago. It's way too basic and I'm not getting much out of it so far. I'm going to ask the tutor if he would be willing to privately tutor me, but he's a busy man and tutoring is just a sideline to his main job. Words of the Week na domiar - 'on top of that'. On top of it all ('na domiar wszystkiego'). To make matters worse ('na domiar złego'). wgnieść per, - 'to dent'. He dented your car door ('wgniótł drzwi w twoim samochodzie'). czubek - 'tip', 'top'. The tip of the nose ('czubek nosa'). They are standing on tiptoes ('stoją na czubkach palców'). wacik - 'swab', 'dabber'. cotton pad. co na to? - 'what does xxx have to say about it? What does you husband say to that? ('co na to pani mąż?') January's Track Funk with Trójkąty i Kwadraty 'Triangles and Squares' by Dawid Podsiadlo. Version with text. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Straya Diglot Groupie Australia Joined 3616 days ago 57 posts - 73 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchA2 Studies: Polish | Message 64 of 95 28 January 2015 at 9:13am | IP Logged | ||
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Greetings Mooby,
I love that you're studying polish and have been so dedicated for the last few years! I have read all your log thoroughly (not a stalker i swear), and have been very impressed with your progress. I too am studying polish, as it is in my roots. I've only done maybe 80 hours maximum but i feel like ive come such a long way! I only say this because as someone who has been in the same situation maybe you could point me the right direction with resources to use :) Im currently using swan's first year polish. where should i go after this or work simultaneously? anyway Powodzenia i do zobaczenia :) Edited by Straya on 28 January 2015 at 9:13am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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