Speakeasy Senior Member Canada Joined 4054 days ago 507 posts - 1098 votes Studies: German
| Message 9 of 14 17 October 2014 at 2:30pm | IP Logged |
Bonjour Clueless,
I don’t think that one can really compare the different language courses discussed above as their specific goals and teaching strategies are so very different one from the other. Personally, and many would disagree, I would not combine two different courses at the beginning of learning a language.
I'm not sure that I understand your question concerning "highest yield" which, to me, suggests a relationship of "input to output" in the learning process. I do not wish to embark on such a discussion as it is fraught with much conjecture and it has the possibility for endless debate.
Finally, I suggest that you review Chung's post which, as always, is filled with much wisdom. In fact, I MUCH prefer his post to mine!
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clueless1 Newbie Canada Joined 4739 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes
| Message 10 of 14 18 October 2014 at 6:43am | IP Logged |
Elexi wrote:
If you have only 2 weeks, get a phrase book with a CD.
Such as this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Collins-Gem-Russian-Phrasebook-Pack/ dp/0007247036
I doubt you will get most of that done in 2 weeks, but anything more will be wasting
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I thought I made it exceptionally clear the bulk of my inquiry was NOT directed toward a two week period?
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clueless1 Newbie Canada Joined 4739 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes
| Message 11 of 14 18 October 2014 at 6:45am | IP Logged |
Speakeasy wrote:
Bonjour Clueless,
I'm not sure that I understand your question concerning "highest yield" which, to me, suggests a relationship of
"input to output" in the learning process. I do not wish to embark on such a discussion as it is fraught with much
conjecture and it has the possibility for endless debate.
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salut, fair enough. ... I guess I'm wondering about the debate re favourite course (or progression of courses) ?
Edited by clueless1 on 18 October 2014 at 7:12am
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Arnaud25 Diglot Senior Member France Joined 3844 days ago 129 posts - 235 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Russian
| Message 12 of 14 19 October 2014 at 10:00am | IP Logged |
Ruslan is also a good course: 3 books + CDs. The only drawback I see is that the russian texts are not translated. The exercices are corrected (at the end of the book for book 1 and 2, on a pdf on internet for book 3). The method is published in several languages: french, english, German, dutch, and swedish. The audio is entirely in russian, in the Assimil way. It can be studied in 2 years instead of 3, because the book 1 is not very difficult. The book 3 is challenging and sometimes boring.
The book 1 contains only simple dialogs, book 2 and 3 dialogs and texts on the russian culture. It's a little story, unlike Assimil: there are several characters that you follow during the whole course.
They also sell byproducts like workbooks, readers and a grammar, but they are not necessary: the textbooks with CDs are sufficient.
I used it combined with Assimil and it's was very useful. If studied seriously, it can bring you to a real B2 level of comprehension and let's say a good B1/B1+ level of oral production if you're alone and speak only to yourself.
As an intro, "Michel Thomas" and "Take off in russian" are good choices, imho: I've started russian with the 3 levels of Michel Thomas and I really enjoyed the process.
My 2 cents.
Edited by Arnaud25 on 19 October 2014 at 10:19am
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MarcoDiAngelo Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 6449 days ago 208 posts - 345 votes Speaks: Serbian*, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Thai, Polish
| Message 13 of 14 25 October 2014 at 11:15pm | IP Logged |
This online course is excellent and totally free.
There is a lot of audio, the dialogues are fun, the grammar is gradually introduced and
there are lots of exercises. It's very comprehensive as well.
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tristano Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4049 days ago 905 posts - 1262 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: Dutch
| Message 14 of 14 08 November 2014 at 4:55pm | IP Logged |
If you have two weeks and you can work 14 hours per day, you can go in Russia knowing all what
you need as a tourist studying Michel Thomas and Pimsleur.
If you need also to read, well...
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