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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4709 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 89 of 134 17 March 2015 at 3:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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Writing is usually a skill that lags behind the others. Writing well is an art, and one
that is extremely difficult to master. In a foreign language, doubly so, and I actually have plenty experience with it. Edited by tarvos on 17 March 2015 at 3:39pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6599 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 90 of 134 17 March 2015 at 4:01pm | IP Logged | ||
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I see, but even if you needed corrections for the accuracy, that's still a very good text. As I said, the corrected version would indicate basic fluency.
(Just in case - upgrading Russian to "speaks" would require basic fluency. if that's your goal for this year then obviously you're already intermediate, which would keep the language as "studies".) Edited by Serpent on 17 March 2015 at 4:01pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4641 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 91 of 134 27 March 2015 at 5:26pm | IP Logged | ||
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I never got around to completing the February challenge, so I make up for that by doing the March challenge twice, that is I have learnt two songs instead of one.
I've chosen two songs by my favourite Russian singer for the time being, Константин Бубнов. That made the challenge quite interesting as I could not find the lyrics to his songs anywhere, and I did an extensive search on the net. This meant that I had to write down what I was hearing, and look up words I did not know. This in itself is not easy when it comes to Russian, because vowel reduction etc. means that you cannot be sure whether you heard an o or an a, or an е or и or я. So it's taken some messing around with both online and paperback dictionaries, but I believe I got there in the end, except for a couple of doubts I still have, so if you see anything obviously wrong or odd, please tell me. Anyway, below are the two songs with their translation into English. Bubnov represents what is called русский шансон, and these are two rather quiet, melodic songs, the topic of both being travelling, as you will see. You can listen to both of them, as well as other songs by Bubnov on his website. Сургут - москва А те косяк потянулся на юг Скоро придут холода белых вьюг Скоро увижу город родной Все будет как раньше, я буду с тобой. И за окном замелькают столбы Лишь сто колес, посреди тишины Сосед по купе надеялся и спит Как видно домой, он совсем не спешит. Сургут – Москва происходит пути Сургут – Москва ты меня просто жди А кончилась вахта, я еду домой Я знаю, скучаешь, скоро буду с тобой. А я как шальной, уснуть не могу Вся ночь прокурил, конечно, я жду Какой уже раз представляю как я Стучу твою дверь и вижу тебя. Качает вагон, поезд спешит Горлик амок и сердце стучит Вот город родной, выхожу на перрон Таксист отвезет в мой старый район. Сургут – Москва происходит пути Сургут – Москва ты меня просто жди А кончилась вахта, я еду домой Я знаю, скучаешь, скоро буду с тобой. As the Cossack travelled south, Soon comes the frost of the white blizzards Soon I will see my home town Everything will be as before, I will be with you. And outside the window the posts flash by Only a hundred wheels in the middle of the silence The neighbour in the compartment was hoping and sleeps As can be seen, he is certainly not hurrying home. Surgut – Moscow, the travel happens Surgut – Moscow, just wait for me The watch has finished, I am going home I know you are bored, I’ll soon be with you. And I am like a crazy, I cannot sleep I smoke the whole night, of course I am waiting How many times have I imagined I knock on your door and I see you. The wagon is shaking, the train is hurrying along The throat is like mad, and my heart is pounding, There is my home town, I step out on the platform The taxi driver takes me to my old part of town. Новый год Где-то за бортом осталась в празднике Одесса, С Новым годом поздравляет пассажиров стюардесса. Как Снегурка разнесет вино и фрукты, Новый год в салоне после южной бухты, Пять тысяч метров под крылом. Как отметишь Новый год, так весь год и будет, Значит снова самолет, пусть нас Бог рассудит. Новые знакомые: глаза и лица, Споры, разговоры, снова буду сниться, Все идет своим чередом. Новый год в салоне самолета, Тост за храброго пилота, За механика, за стюардессу, И за мамочку Одессу. А в Москве давно стоят хрустящие морозы. Я тебе везу в подарок три веточки мимозы. Знаю, скажешь: "Семь часов назад ждала" А потом обнимешь нежно, до утра, Вот такие у нас Новые года. Новый год в салоне самолета, Тост за храброго пилота, За механика, за стюардессу, И за мамочку Одессу. Somewhere on board is Odessa on vacation The stewardess wishes the passengers Happy New Year Like Snegyrka she hands out wine and fruit New year in the cabin after the southern bay Five thousand meters under the wing. The way you spend New Year, thus will the year be So again a plain, let God judge us New acquaintances, eyes and faces, Quarrels, conversations, again I will dream, Everything goes its usual way. New Year on the plane A toast to the brave pilot To the mechanic, the stewardess And little mummy Odessa. And in Moscow there has long been crisp frost I bring you as a gift three branches of mimosa I know, you will say: I have waited for seven hours, And then you will softly embrace me until the morning Such are our New Years. New Year on the plane A toast to the brave pilot To the mechanic, the stewardess And little mummy Odessa. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4709 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 92 of 134 28 March 2015 at 6:08am | IP Logged | ||
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Oh, the song challenge. I forgot about that entirely. Looks like I have to find some
Arkona song 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| kraft Newbie Russian Federation Joined 5225 days ago 34 posts - 45 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 93 of 134 28 March 2015 at 9:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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Some correction to Сургут - москва lyric:
А те косяк потянулся на юг ==> Уток косяк потянулся на юг Лишь сто колес, посреди тишины ==> Лишь стук колес посреди тишины Сосед по купе надеялся и спит ==> Сосед по купе напился и спит Сургут – Москва происходит пути ==> Сургут – Москва трое суток в пути А кончилась вахта, я еду домой ==> Окончилась вахта, я еду домой Вся ночь прокурил, конечно, я жду ==> ВсЮ ночь прокурил, конечную жду Горлик амок и сердце стучит ==> В горле комок и сердце стучит And to Новый год Споры, разговоры, снова буду сниться, ==> Споры, разговоры, снова будуТ сниться, Edited by kraft on 28 March 2015 at 9:53pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| chokofingrz Pentaglot Senior Member England Joined 5191 days ago 241 posts - 430 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Japanese, Catalan, Luxembourgish | Message 94 of 134 28 March 2015 at 11:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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Here is a song I came across in the Soviet musical Матрос с "Кометы" (A Sailor from "The Comet") (1958) late one night while browsing on Kaban.tv
A nice sea shanty sung by Gleb Romanov, which can't fail to get stuck in your head! This was mostly transcribed and translated by me, but ultimately I googled it to have the correct version, below. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2oqnbejS6s Чёрное море моё Тот, кто рождён был у моря Тот полюбил навсегда Белые мачты на рейде В дымке морской города Свет маяка над волною Южных ночей забытьё Самое синее в мире Чёрное море моё Чёрное море моё! Море в далёкие годы Пело мне песни, как мать Море меня научило Грозные бури встречать Дорог мне кубрик матросский - Скромное наше жильё Самое синее в мире Чёрное море моё Чёрное море моё! Стонет волна штормовая В дальние дали маня Так не ревнуй, дорогая К Чёрному морю меня Как ни трудна эта доля Мне не прожить без неё Самое синее в мире Чёрное море моё Чёрное море моё! Бьют в берега величаво Волны далёких морей Где б ты по свету не плавал Всюду встречал ты друзей Реет, как гордая птица Флаг на твоём корабле Могут всегда сговориться Все мояки на земле --- He who is born on the sea Falls in love for all time White masts en route In the fog of a sea port Light from a lighthouse upon the waves Southern night reveries The bluest in the world My Black sea My Black sea! The sea in times gone by Sang me songs like my mother The sea taught me To weather terrible storms I adore my sailor's bunk Our quarters are modest The bluest in the world My Black sea My Black sea! The storm's waves moan The far distance beckons Do not be so jealous, my dear The Black Sea, to me, As hard as this fate is I could not live without her The bluest in the world My Black sea My Black sea! Crashing on the shores sublimely Waves from faraway seas Where you have never sailed There where you have met friends It soars like a proud bird The flag on your ship They can always agree All the sailors of the world 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Nieng Zhonghan Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Antarctica Joined 3673 days ago 108 posts - 315 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Japanese*, Spanish, Galician Studies: Finnish, Icelandic, Armenian, Mongolian Studies: Old English, Russian, English, German, Korean, Mandarin | Message 95 of 134 29 March 2015 at 11:18pm | IP Logged | ||
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This is my first Russian challenge. I haven’t tried to memorize the lyrics because I
simply can’t learn any songs by heart. I don’t remember having memorized any song in my life, even in my mother tongues. I somehow have problems I will never know how to solve; therefore, I decide to concentrate on the meaning of the songs and improve my vocabulary knowledge. I have chosen the Russian national anthem and it seemed to be pretty nice. Here it is the original lyric and its translation in English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlpyh2TL3e0 Россия — священная наша держава, Россия — любимая наша страна. Могучая воля, великая слава — Твоё достоянье на все времена! Припев: Славься, Отечество наше свободное, Братских народов союз вековой, Предками данная мудрость народная! Славься, страна! Мы гордимся тобой! От южных морей до полярного края Раскинулись наши леса и поля. Одна ты на свете! Одна ты такая — Хранимая Богом родная земля! Припев Широкий простор для мечты и для жизни Грядущие нам открывают года. Нам силу даёт наша верность Отчизне. Так было, так есть и так будет всегда! Припев Russia-our sacred state, Russia-our beloved country. A mighty will, a great glory Are yours forever for all time! Chorus: Be glorious, our free Fatherland, Ancient union of brotherly peoples, Ancestor given wisdom of the people! Be glorious, country! We are proud of you! From the southern seas to the polar region Lie our forests and our fields. You are one in the world! You are one of a kind, Native land protected by God! Chorus Wide spaces for dreams and for living Are open to us by the coming years. Our faith in our Fatherland gives us strength. So it was, so it is, and so it will always be! Chorus 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4641 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 96 of 134 30 March 2015 at 6:05pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks a lot for the corrections, this were the parts where I struggled the most to understand the meaning and after consulting dictionaries I finally went for something I thought might be right, although sometimes it didn't really add up. Obviously, when you don't know the word, it is hard to be sure of what sounds you actually heard, even more so in a song. Just one question, can you explain the use of конечную in this sentence: ВсЮ ночь прокурил, конечную жду? I take it is the female accusative form of конечный - but not sure if it refers back to ночь. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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