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| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5134 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes  Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 81 of 403 05 March 2016 at 12:06am | IP Logged |
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Yesterday I was reading my Arabic-Japanese dictionary in my office, then one of my friend asked me if I could understand the meaning of them. I answered, "If I know the Arabic meaning but don't know the Japanese meaning, my Japanese vocabulary increases. If I know the Japanese meaning but don't know the Arabic meaning, my Arabic vocabulary increases. If I don't know both meanings, I am learning to spell."
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| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5134 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 82 of 403 07 March 2016 at 1:51pm | IP Logged |
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I wonder, why in all Arabic-Japanese textbook I ever encountered, they transliterated ث with サ? Shouldn't it be ツァ? I mean, for example, shouldn't the Arabic letters for "tsunami" (ツナミ) be ثُنَمِ instead of سُنَمِ?
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| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5134 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 83 of 403 07 March 2016 at 6:00pm | IP Logged |
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Learnt that the Arabic word for "sound" is صوت. At first I found it difficult to associate it to another word I knew, then I realized that صوت sounded similar to "shout". In fact, that's how Indonesians pronounced it.
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| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5134 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 84 of 403 08 March 2016 at 6:06pm | IP Logged |
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How I preceive all "s" letters in Arabic compared to Japanese (I am using "su" syllable because it is the most distinguishable):
سُ = ス (normal "su") ثُ = ツ (tsu) صُ = シュ (shu) شُ = シユ (syu) 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5134 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 85 of 403 09 March 2016 at 6:29pm | IP Logged |
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| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5134 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 86 of 403 10 March 2016 at 6:06pm | IP Logged |
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How I memorize the Kanji 村 (mura), which means "village":
In my country there was a soap opera adapted from a novel titled "7 Manusia Harimau" (7 Tiger Humans). It took place in a village named Kumayan. The left part of the Kanji 村 has the Kanji 木 which means "wood". Kumayan village was located in a district named Kayulima, and the word "kayu" itself means "wood". The left part of the Kanji 村 has something which looks like the Katakana for na (ナ). The Japanese word for the number 7 is "nana". As for the little stroke in the middle, I associate in with a newcomer in Kumayan since it often got newcomers. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5134 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 87 of 403 11 March 2016 at 6:22pm | IP Logged |
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The Kanji for "village" (村) has the Kanji for "tree" (木) in it while the Kanji for "town" (町) has the Kanji for "ricefield" (田) in it. So, the associations I made to memorize them are that in villages we can still see many trees whereas in towns we can only see ricefields.
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| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5134 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 88 of 403 12 March 2016 at 6:11pm | IP Logged |
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That moment when you are able to read a full Japanese sentence with Kanjis: Watashi wa Arabia go wo hanasu koto ga dekiru Even my brother who knows Kanji says "At first I didn't know what does "astathii'u" means, but reading the Japanese I know the meaning". 1 person has voted this message useful |
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