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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7206 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 9 of 54 09 October 2006 at 5:47am | IP Logged | ||
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Perhaps a picture would be helpful. The Administrator has some diagrams for related languages. A more complete picture where East Asian languages would be closer to each other, but further from Indo-European languages. Romance languages would be very close to each other, etc.
Some of the languages on this site, particularly romance languages, have a "languages related to ......" chart, which can be helpful. Edited by luke on 09 October 2006 at 5:51am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Alijsh Tetraglot Senior Member Iran jahanshiri.ir/ Joined 6623 days ago 149 posts - 167 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Persian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: German, Italian | Message 10 of 54 09 October 2006 at 7:31am | IP Logged | ||
Which aspects? Please explain clearly! Although Cyrillic alphabet is quite similar to Latin but Russian sounds are not as close as you say to English. I suppose Persian is closer. Russian has some specific sounds. Do you have any acquaintance with Russian and Persian? Edited by Alijsh on 09 October 2006 at 7:48am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Alijsh Tetraglot Senior Member Iran jahanshiri.ir/ Joined 6623 days ago 149 posts - 167 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Persian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: German, Italian | Message 11 of 54 09 October 2006 at 7:32am | IP Logged | ||
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How helpful is this ranking anyway? Say one wants to learn Russian or Japanese. Seeing it has been ranked as a hard language for him/her leads him to giving up, double thinking etc. or it's encouraging.
Personaly speaking, I don't pay attention to how much hard or easy a language is. For me the key factors are culture and especially literature. Edited by Alijsh on 09 October 2006 at 7:42am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7147 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto | Message 12 of 54 09 October 2006 at 8:56am | IP Logged | ||
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Alijsh, you have convinced me to have a look at Persian. The alphabet looks difficult, but I am persuaded the language is fairly straight forward. I have downloaded two programs from the Internet and I have the introductory Transparent and Eureka courses. That should be enough for me to look at the language on a simple level.
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| Alijsh Tetraglot Senior Member Iran jahanshiri.ir/ Joined 6623 days ago 149 posts - 167 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Persian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: German, Italian | Message 13 of 54 09 October 2006 at 9:16am | IP Logged | ||
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Dear fanatic,
Please read my post at [Philological Room/What Persian shares]. I think it gives you the overall info you want. By the way, the alphabet is not as hard as you think. easypersian.com is also a good source. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| neo Diglot Groupie IndiaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6807 days ago 81 posts - 83 votes Speaks: Hindi*, English Studies: German, Italian | Message 14 of 54 09 October 2006 at 9:52am | IP Logged | ||
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I completely agree on most of the points made by Alijsh.
I laugh at the way "Hindi" has been permanently clubbed with "Urdu" in the language profiles section and I was "forced" to declare knowing Urdu when I only know Hindi in my profile !! Its is "said" that Urdu and Hindi are similar and you can substitute one for the other...make an Indian who knows only hindi sit thru a Pakistani Urdu news broadcast and see what I mean! Even Barry Farber mentions a similar point in his book "How To Learn Any Language" that: "The Scandinavian languages are lumped together because of their similarity and the reliability with which natives of one Scandinavian country can deal with the languages of the others. That similarity is something for you to know and enjoy, not something for you to mention to the Scandinavians themselves. They’re horrified when outsiders say, “Gee, Swedish, Danish, and Norwegian are all alike!" --------- neo 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Alijsh Tetraglot Senior Member Iran jahanshiri.ir/ Joined 6623 days ago 149 posts - 167 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Persian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: German, Italian | Message 15 of 54 09 October 2006 at 10:42am | IP Logged | ||
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Dear neo,
Concerning Urdu, I have heard that more than 70% of its words are from Persian. Edited by Alijsh on 11 October 2006 at 1:56am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7377 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 16 of 54 09 October 2006 at 3:26pm | IP Logged | ||
Yeah, right. This page is almost 10 years old, the new page is here. If you have constructive comments about the new page please let me know after you have read the notes at the bottom of said page. Farsi is the most commonly used name of Persian in contemporary English, if you have an issue with that go take it up with the native English speakers, not with me. Thanks. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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