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| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7206 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 33 of 54 10 October 2006 at 4:40am | IP Logged | |||||
The similarites between languages has different difficulty ratings for someone who knows one of the listed languages. At the moment there is little representation of East Asian and Middle Eastern languages. Perhaps someone could contribute the percentage of shared vocabulary and grammatical difficulty for more languages.
It's interesting to see the grammatical difficulty of Spanish is 1 cactus for a French speaker, and 3 cacti for an English speaker. Russian has a 4 cacti grammar difficulty rating for the monolingual English speaker, but only 1 cacti of difficulty for a Serbo-Croatian.
Edited by luke on 10 October 2006 at 4:48am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Alijsh Tetraglot Senior Member Iran jahanshiri.ir/ Joined 6623 days ago 149 posts - 167 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Persian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: German, Italian | Message 34 of 54 10 October 2006 at 10:30am | IP Logged | |||||
Dear Admin, If the page is so old then please remove it because it has still new visitors like me that get wrong idea from the page. Concerning "Persian or Farsi", I have replied you in this page: Specific Languages: Persian or Farsi | page 4. Please do me a favor and read it. Edited by Alijsh on 10 October 2006 at 10:38am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| lady_skywalker Triglot Senior Member Netherlands aspiringpolyglotblog Joined 6891 days ago 909 posts - 942 votes Speaks: Spanish, English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, French, Dutch, Italian | Message 35 of 54 10 October 2006 at 11:12am | IP Logged | |||||
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Alijish,
While it's nice to have seen such a debate over the Farsi/Persian issue, I'm beginning to wonder if you have any other interest in language learning. All you've done since you joined is argued about the Farsi/Persian issue and I'm just curious as to what your other language interests are. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| rafaelrbp Pentaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 7014 days ago 181 posts - 201 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Spanish, English, French, Italian Studies: German | Message 36 of 54 10 October 2006 at 2:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
Dear lady, he also gave us an interesting insight about the Persian (or Farsi, whatever) grammar, when compared to other indo-european languages. I agree with you that he may also have a lot to share about language learning and related stuff. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Alijsh Tetraglot Senior Member Iran jahanshiri.ir/ Joined 6623 days ago 149 posts - 167 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Persian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: German, Italian | Message 37 of 54 11 October 2006 at 12:31am | IP Logged | |||||
ha ha! I have already given up. Look at the last page to see I have said goodbye. Experts call it Persian and it's enough for me. Frankly, I didn't think it will become so hot. Yes, I have had other contributions as well. And I'll do more for sure since I'm still a newcomer. Which languages are of interest to you? Is Persian among them? I have added many links at [Links & Internet Resources: Persian and Iran] Soon, I'll write a crash course on Persian verb system. Edited by Alijsh on 11 October 2006 at 2:42am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6769 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek | Message 38 of 54 11 October 2006 at 3:33am | IP Logged | |||||
Indeed. :) It's nice to have a resident expert on Persian (especially one so enthusiastic about his language), but I'm sure people would also like to hear Alijsh's thoughts on Esperanto or his reasons for learning German. In a different thread, of course! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7157 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 39 of 54 11 October 2006 at 2:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Bringing this back on topic, I don't see the problem with Francois' ratings as long as we remember that they are his take on the perception of other languages from the viewpoint of someone with a strong background in English. Frankly, I think that Alijsh's comment that Francois' old ratings were "absolutely incorrect" came off the wrong way and probably unwittingly sounded more like mild flaming.
I myself would rank the languages differently, but I definitely wouldn't roast Francois for taking the time to make an effort. Luke brought up a good point that most of the languages on the list are European. I'm sure that a native speaker of a language that is not European could provide ratings that end up favouring non-European languages. Maybe Francois could even post it on this site in order to let a visitor without a native background in English compare the points of view. Alijsh? Do we have a volunteer? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Alijsh Tetraglot Senior Member Iran jahanshiri.ir/ Joined 6623 days ago 149 posts - 167 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Persian*, Spanish, French, English Studies: German, Italian | Message 40 of 54 11 October 2006 at 2:41pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Dear Chung,
I'm writing my comments on the new page. I think it will be finished by tomorrow. By the way, i use half values because I think 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 is too absolute. Edited by Alijsh on 11 October 2006 at 2:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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