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| administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7375 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes  12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 1 of 8 26 April 2005 at 6:52am | IP Logged | ||
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I have just uploaded a small MP3 file so you can hear what Brother Salvatore, the man who speaks all languages and none, sounds like in the movie The Name of the Rose by Jean-Jacques Annaud. The other two people heard in the file are Sean Connery and Christian Slater (both are monks in this film).
The film dialog goes as follows: Salvatore: Là-bas nous avons il Diavolo. Eh Eh. Ugly comme Salvatore. My little brother. Penitenziagite! [...] Slater: What language was he speaking? Connery: All languages - and none. The original in Umberto Eco's book is more complete: 'Penitenziagite! Watch out for the draco who cometh in futurum to gnaw your anima! Death is super nos! Pray the Santo Pater come to liberar nos a malo and all our sin! Ha ha, you like this negromanzia de Domini Nostri Jesu Christi! Et anco jois m'es dols e plazer m'es dolors... Cave el diabolo! Semper lying in wait for me in some angulum to snap at my heels. But Salvatore is not stupidus! Bonum monasterium, and aqui refectorium and pray to dominum nostrum. And the rest is worth merda. Amen. No?' Edited by administrator on 26 April 2005 at 6:56am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| jradetzky Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom geocities.com/jradet Joined 7206 days ago 521 posts - 485 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2, GermanB1 | Message 2 of 8 26 April 2005 at 10:15am | IP Logged | ||
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Is "Penitenziagite" a Sicilian word? What does it mean?
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| Alfonso Octoglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 6860 days ago 511 posts - 536 votes Speaks: Biblical Hebrew, Spanish*, French, English, Tzotzil, Italian, Portuguese, Ancient Greek Studies: Nahuatl, Tzeltal, German | Message 3 of 8 24 April 2006 at 4:10pm | IP Logged | ||
As far as I know Umberto Eco is Italian. Did he write The name of the Rose in English? Is this the text in its original version? It seems it has been adapted for an English translation. If yes, would it be possible to find on the web this text in its original version? I hope so. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7375 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 4 of 8 25 April 2006 at 12:11am | IP Logged | ||
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Penitenziagite! Vide quando draco venturus est a rodegarla l'anima tua! La mortz est super nos! Prega che vene lo papa santo a liberar nos a malo de todas le peccata! Ah ah, ve piase ista negromanzia de Domini Nostri Ieus Christi! Et anco jois m'es dols e plazer m'es dolors.. Cave el diabolo! Semper m'aguaita in qualche canto per adentarme le carcagna. Ma Salvatore non est insipiens! Bonum monasterium, et aqui se magna et se priega dominum nostrum. Et el resto valet un figo seco. Et amen. No?
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| Eidolio Bilingual Octoglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 6860 days ago 159 posts - 164 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Dutch*, Flemish*, French, English, Latin, Ancient Greek, Italian, Greek | Message 5 of 8 25 April 2006 at 2:48am | IP Logged | ||
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Penitenziagite = "penitentiam agite" (in Latin, vowel+m combinations aren't pronounced if the next word begins with a vowel), something like "show remorse".
I don't know the Italian word "rodegare" but I think it must be derived from the Latin word "rodere", which means "bite, gnawl, nibble". 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7375 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map | Message 6 of 8 25 April 2006 at 3:07am | IP Logged | ||
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Eidolio, thanks for lifting the mystery on this most intriguing word! I like this scene so much I turned it into a forum keyword for topics about learning a bit of every language (or many languages together).
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| Eidolio Bilingual Octoglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 6860 days ago 159 posts - 164 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Dutch*, Flemish*, French, English, Latin, Ancient Greek, Italian, Greek | Message 7 of 8 25 April 2006 at 2:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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it is indeed a very nice scene. I really recommend "the name of the rose". I was only 14 when I read it but it had a deep influence on me.
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| Alfonso Octoglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 6860 days ago 511 posts - 536 votes Speaks: Biblical Hebrew, Spanish*, French, English, Tzotzil, Italian, Portuguese, Ancient Greek Studies: Nahuatl, Tzeltal, German | Message 8 of 8 25 April 2006 at 11:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you for the text in its original version. It's quite interesting!
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