cameroncrc Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6518 days ago 195 posts - 185 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Ukrainian
| Message 1 of 24 15 April 2007 at 7:54pm | IP Logged |
This thread is dedicated to those doing the six week challenge for Esperanto. Please discuss courses/vocabulary/grammar/troubles/milestones/etc. here.
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awake Senior Member United States Joined 6637 days ago 406 posts - 438 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Spanish
| Message 2 of 24 16 April 2007 at 12:34am | IP Logged |
It's a good idea, sort of a group learning log rather than an individual one.
I'll hang around the thread to help out if I can (and if it's desirable. :)
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Rmss Triglot Senior Member Spain spanish-only.coRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6565 days ago 234 posts - 248 votes 3 sounds Speaks: Dutch*, English, Spanish Studies: Portuguese
| Message 3 of 24 16 April 2007 at 4:46am | IP Logged |
Nice idea to make a group log. Of course I'll keep my own log but it would be nice too to exchange things we ran into.
So far the "komencanto" and "bildoj kaj demandoj" lessons of www.lernu.net have been very useful for me. I really have the feeling I'm learning really fast which boosts motivation. So far I've studied 5 hours in two days without a pain...
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awake Senior Member United States Joined 6637 days ago 406 posts - 438 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Spanish
| Message 4 of 24 16 April 2007 at 12:42pm | IP Logged |
That's great. I'm glad to hear that it's going well for you. I used the
book/tape series "Teach Yourself Esperanto" as my springboard into
learning Eo. Unfortunately it's out of print now, but it was a pretty good
resource back in the day. :) I'm really curious to see how people fare
using the tools available at lernu.net (which seems the general approach
most people are taking from what I've gathered).
Good Luck! :)
Rmss wrote:
Nice idea to make a group log. Of course I'll keep my
own log but it would be nice too to exchange things we ran into.
So far the "komencanto" and "bildoj kaj demandoj" lessons of
www.lernu.net have been very useful for me. I really have the feeling I'm
learning really fast which boosts motivation. So far I've studied 5 hours in
two days without a pain... |
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6440 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 5 of 24 16 April 2007 at 2:00pm | IP Logged |
awake wrote:
That's great. I'm glad to hear that it's going well for you. I used the
book/tape series "Teach Yourself Esperanto" as my springboard into
learning Eo. Unfortunately it's out of print now, but it was a pretty good
resource back in the day. :) I'm really curious to see how people fare
using the tools available at lernu.net (which seems the general approach
most people are taking from what I've gathered).
Good Luck! :)
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I didn't realize that "Teach Yourself Esperanto" was out of print, as I just bought a new copy last year. I'm greatly preferring the lernu.net resources; 'bildoj kaj demandoj' can easily hold my attention for as long as I let it, while I could never stick to reading "Teach Yourself Esperanto". Via 'bildoj kaj demandoj', the correlatives are finally starting to sink in (they were the reason I previously abandoned Esperanto, in 2004, I'm ashamed to admit).
[I'm not doing Esperanto as my 6 week challenge, due to prior familiarity, and I'm not holding to any time limit on it, but I did resume my studies of it a few days before the challenge started.]
Edited by Volte on 16 April 2007 at 2:01pm
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Rmss Triglot Senior Member Spain spanish-only.coRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6565 days ago 234 posts - 248 votes 3 sounds Speaks: Dutch*, English, Spanish Studies: Portuguese
| Message 6 of 24 16 April 2007 at 2:41pm | IP Logged |
I'm currently adding another everyday course to my routine. www.lernu.net contains all the courses I need and will use, and they gave the advice tp start with several courses at the same time to keep motivated and to keep attention. I totally agree what they say and I'm planning to to a maximum of five courses at the same time, each every different.
At the same time I'll stay on the same level at each course so that, before I move on to a higher level, I reached the previous level with the other courses.
The only problem I've encountered so far is that I keep messing up the meanings of kiu, kie and kio in my head. This is slowly getting away and I even (finally) get it when mi or mia, vi or via is used. Ili and ni are still a bit tricky bit I hopefully will overcome that.
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Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6471 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 7 of 24 16 April 2007 at 2:58pm | IP Logged |
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The only problem I've encountered so far is that I keep messing up the meanings of kiu, kie and kio in my head. This is slowly getting away and I even (finally) get it when mi or mia, vi or via is used. Ili and ni are still a bit tricky bit I hopefully will overcome that. |
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Kiu, kie and kio can be tricky when you haven't learned the endings of 'tabelvortoj' separately - which would show you wonderful logic like
kiu - who, tiu - this person, iu - somebody, cxiu - everybody, neniu - nobody
kio - what, tio - this thing, io - something, cxio - everything, nenio - nothing
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I don't quite see what the problem with mi / mia and vi / via or ili / ni is.
mi and vi are the personal pronouns (I, ik, io, yo and you, jij, tu / voi, tĂș / vosotros).
mia and via (the -a indicating an adjective form) are the possessive pronouns (my, mijn, mio/mia, mi and your, uw, tuo / vostro, tu / vuestro).
If you are having trouble remembering which corresponds to which, think of the following:
- for mi think of English "me"
- for vi think of Italian "voi"
- for mia think of Italian "mia" (as in "la mia amica")
- for via there is no close form that I know of, but comparing to Italian and Spanish at least help you figure out that it's a form of "you", rather than "I".
Ili and ni are both personal pronouns.
Ili is "they" - Latin "illi" or French "ils" would help you there, but since you don't know those languages, you may have to resort to Spanish "ellos".
Ni is "we" - Italian "noi" is close enough here.
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Rmss Triglot Senior Member Spain spanish-only.coRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6565 days ago 234 posts - 248 votes 3 sounds Speaks: Dutch*, English, Spanish Studies: Portuguese
| Message 8 of 24 17 April 2007 at 1:37am | IP Logged |
You have a link to a tabelvortoj? It would sure be handy!
About the mi/mia and vi/via; I wasn't thinking further when I needed to use it. I got it now :-). Ili and ni would be the only thing to be hard for me, but that's simply because I haven't used the words much yet.
Edited by Rmss on 17 April 2007 at 1:38am
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