jstele Bilingual Senior Member United States Joined 6654 days ago 186 posts - 194 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean*
| Message 9 of 25 26 May 2007 at 6:44pm | IP Logged |
virgule wrote:
Perhaps it's worth differentiating different Korean dialects rather than trying to approach this using contemporary political divisions (North/South). Out of interest, how does the Kangwon dialect sound to you?
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Of course, not every South Korean dialect sounds graceful or eloquent. But I still prefer any South Korean accent over a North Korean one because there is a variety in intonation and rhythm. I'm not sure I'm familiar with the Kangwon dialect.
virgule wrote:
Trying to keep with the original topic, someone interested in learning Korean for work with North Koreans surely should learn the pronunciation of the north...! Yes, in general there might be a pragmatic reason to study the pronunciation from Seoul, but in the individual case there might be a point for not doing so.
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That goes without saying. I was talking about in general for someone who wants to learn the Korean language. Most people aren't going to deal with the North.
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nhk9 Senior Member Canada Joined 6803 days ago 290 posts - 319 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 10 of 25 28 May 2007 at 3:28am | IP Logged |
It's actually not a good idea to demonstrate your Kangwon dialect ability especially if and when you shall set your foot inside DPRK territory. More likely you will be considered as a spy more than anything else. They don't welcome anyone with any ability in Korean, not to mention their own dialect. This is because the DPRK government does not want its citizens to establish contact with any foreigners who visit the country.
For most foreigners, the chance of meeting a North Korean is almost close to 0. The only way that most of us can gain access to the "standard" chosonmal is via North Korea's Juche television. And you know how they sound like right... Perhaps most North Koreans don't speak in the way that the announcers in Juche television speak, but we may never know.
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virgule Senior Member Antarctica Joined 6839 days ago 242 posts - 261 votes Studies: Korean
| Message 11 of 25 28 May 2007 at 6:21am | IP Logged |
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sebngwa3 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6163 days ago 200 posts - 217 votes Speaks: Korean*, English
| Message 12 of 25 11 February 2010 at 4:52pm | IP Logged |
>It is all because of the favours I received from Korean people that I feel indebted to the Peninsula.
What were the favors?
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6767 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 13 of 25 11 February 2010 at 5:19pm | IP Logged |
jstele wrote:
. I was talking about in general for someone who wants to learn the Korean language. Most people aren't
going to deal with the North.
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This is a situation that will reverse itself rapidly if the regime in the North ever falls or reunification happens.
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Wilco Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6329 days ago 160 posts - 247 votes Speaks: French*, English, Russian
| Message 14 of 25 12 February 2010 at 5:18am | IP Logged |
nhk9 wrote:
For most foreigners, the chance of meeting a North Korean is almost close to 0. The only way that most of us can gain access to the "standard" chosonmal is via North Korea's Juche television. And you know how they sound like right... Perhaps most North Koreans don't speak in the way that the announcers in Juche television speak, but we may never know. |
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I studied in the Russian far east last summmer, and my roommate was North Korean. In fact, half the people on my floor were either North Korean students, or North Korean teachers, in an exchange trip with my university. They were all very nice to me, but way to busy to sit down with me and teach me their language. I really wish I had learned the North Korean dialect before coming!
So the chances you'll come across a North Korean citizen in North America or Europe are bleak, but in Russia or China, it's not rare at all.
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6767 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 15 of 25 12 February 2010 at 6:09am | IP Logged |
That's interesting. The North Korean regime is explicitly allowing their students and teachers to visit Russia?
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brendanj Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5407 days ago 14 posts - 25 votes Speaks: English*, Latin Studies: Arabic (Written), French, German, Arabic (classical)
| Message 16 of 25 12 February 2010 at 6:17am | IP Logged |
I personally wouldn't focus on the North Korean dialect. There's no real value in knowing it. North Korea isn't exactly a place you can visit for social interaction; the boulevards of Pyongyang are vacant and tourists are well supervised. If you have an interest in North Korea, you can study all of the cruel happenings in that dictatorial state. Aside from that, I can't see anyone ever having a practical application for it. nhk9 also raises a good point: the "Dear Leader" and his schizophrenic bureaucrats may detain you under suspicion of spying.
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