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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6437 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes  Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 9 of 10 23 July 2007 at 9:43am | IP Logged | |||||
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I am interested in theoretical debates, examples, etc. What I was aiming for in the first post, but didn't really make clear as I was trying to get my ideas together and absorb some new concepts at the same time, was how 'to' correlates with case use, and also how strongly case use correlates with abstract grammatical interpretations (ie, the different types of sentences with the verb 'to be').
To fredomirek, Kubelek: thanks. I'm at a level where I have some trouble with example sentences still (I've put barely over a dozen hours into Polish thus far), and I understand the difficulty of giving grammatical answers, especially in your native language; I'm nearly entirely incapable of doing so for English. Knowing that 'Ewa to jest' is unambiguously wrong is useful; I didn't previously know that, and it's a simple enough example that I think I've been able to absorb it. furyou_gaijin, peterlin: Thank you both for your explanations. An initial rough idea is extremely useful, especially when tempered with the knowledge that it's approximate. An idea of the subtleties and difficulties involved is also useful. Knowing that these -aren't- thoroughly agreed on and documented is perhaps even more so. On a more minor point: you both used male pronouns for me, but I'm female. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| furyou_gaijin Senior Member Japan Joined 6384 days ago 540 posts - 631 votes Speaks: Latin* | Message 10 of 10 23 July 2007 at 10:28am | IP Logged | |||||
We are down to ghetto-speak, then? :-) Well, one can argue that it's not entirely out of place on a language forum, either... :-)
Too true. Thank you for reminding me what put me off attempting a PhD in linguistics many years ago. :-) Now I also recall why I struggled reading through Volte's post in the first place... With my highly practical approach to most things in life, let's agree that my comments need to be interpreted in the most practical sense and - yes - not unfrequently represent an over-simplification as means of attaining a perceived practical goal. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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