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glossa.passion
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19 October 2007 at 1:22pm | IP Logged

slucido wrote:

That's mnemonics. In fact, it's the story method.

I didn't know that there's even a name for that!

ilanbg wrote:

... 90% of them are probably not going to be words you'll need to know...

You would be surprised how often these words are used. After I had made up the *llow-story, I was well aware of these words while reading books in English - I am sometimes a fanatic reader. Every time I came across a llow-word, I wrote the whole sentence in my wordlist. I highly enjoyed doing this, because my list got completed - but not in one day or one week :-), therefore sufficient exposure is essentially.

I made a special binder called "Word Treasure - Word Pleasure" which had the sections "Single Words", "Word Pairs" and "Word Groups". It was so funny to look for words and create new topics. I always combined this vocab-work with real material. So the question of useful or not useful words never came up!
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20 October 2007 at 7:49am | IP Logged

ilanbg wrote:

I can't think of learning random words in the dictionary as being even the slightest bit helpful. 90% of them are probably not going to be words you'll need to know at the point where reading the dictionary would be helpful, and the memory retention on that sort of thing would be awful.

I once learned everything on the first 2 or 3 pages of my Japanese-English dictionary, with the intention of slogging through the whole thing till I was a master of the language. Well, I tried.

Occasionally, one of those words I learned does come in handy. :D
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20 October 2007 at 2:13pm | IP Logged

Reading the dictionary might help you learn some new words, but I ca not imagine how boring it woud be!

I´d rather read a book.
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20 October 2007 at 4:17pm | IP Logged

At the risk of sounding even more like a fan than I already do, it's worth noting that polyglot Stu Jay Raj has said he reads the dictionary as an initial boost in the language as well as just for fun, often every night. Some people enjoy stuff like that.
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21 October 2007 at 12:12pm | IP Logged

glossa.passion wrote:

slucido wrote:

That's mnemonics. In fact, it's the story method.

I didn't know that there's even a name for that!

You can read this thread two years ago:

http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=522&KW=czech

czech wrote:

It's not hard, if you start in the morning with about 6 words. You can make that a goal before you go to work or wherever. Than try to catch some moments to look at the cards, if you have already reviewed the cards, you will know what the words are, so sometimes, if you look at a card for 4 seconds, you can find a story for it, you'll never have to look at it again, you can memorize it that easily.

As far as a story goes, they help you remember word order.
Here is an example of a recent card:

el extremista- extremist,
el senado- senate,
presupuestario- budget (adj.),
la asignacion- pay,
suplementario- extra,
de lado- sideways

I imagined an �extremist� on top of the �senate� building, about to jump off because of �budget� problems with his �pay.� But then they tell him he will earn �extra.� So he comes down the �side� of the building (sideways).

These may sound like big stories, but they happen so quickly in the mind.
Remember that you need to know word order so that you can remember and review all the words.
Also, try to memorize all words early in the day so you can improve the spots you don�t remember so well during the rest of the day.

You can find explanations about the link and the story methods here:

http://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newTIM_01.htm

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21 October 2007 at 12:30pm | IP Logged

apparition wrote:

I read children dictionaries from time to time. It's easier, because they have pictures and fewer words.

I have read about people who have learnt dictionaries from memory and I know some of them. They are trained with mnemonic methods.I have read Dr Yip memorised an entire 1700 pages dictionary for a period of six months, 10 pages every day and 60 every week. He revised the words immediately after he memorised them and review them again several times in the same day. He did quick revisions in his head each day.

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21 October 2007 at 1:38pm | IP Logged

It's certainly possible, but the time spent mnemonically learning vocabulary—especially to that degree—could
probably be better spent, no?

Also, I assume Dr. Yip was memorizing the dictionary in his native language.
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21 October 2007 at 6:23pm | IP Logged

ilanbg wrote:

I am not sure. Dr. Yip Swee Chooi is a memory champion from Malaysia.
Read this:

http://chennaionline.com/education/Events/2004/09abacus.asp

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Dr Yip Swee Chooi, a world-class memoriser, started teaching the memory technique from the early 1990s and is one of the best-known educators and memory experts in the world. Known as the 'Walking Dictionary' for his ability to memorise 1774 pages from the Oxford Dictionary, Dr Yip Swee Chooi has made several appearances in different forms of media.

In a brief demonstration, he showed he could recall every entry in the Oxford Dictionary, giving the page number and the position, with the meaning of the word. He could also read out every number written on a board written by a challenger (there were over a 100 numbers on the board), and could read out the numbers in reverse order!

It's all about a extremely intense mnemonic training.

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