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ilanbg Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6411 days ago 166 posts - 189 votes Speaks: French, English* Studies: Spanish, Arabic (classical), Persian
| Message 25 of 29 22 October 2007 at 8:51pm | IP Logged |
None of that really seems helpful to learning languages, though. Obviously it's important to develop a vocabulary
larger than 1-6,000 words, but you would not want to learn numbers 7000-10,000 until you learned the first 6000.
And by then, you will probably know the language well enough that you will be able to integrate new vocabulary as
you learn it, rather than rely on mnemonics and other forms of memorization, which are only useful in the true
beginning stages.
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| FSI Senior Member United States Joined 6360 days ago 550 posts - 590 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 26 of 29 22 October 2007 at 9:01pm | IP Logged |
MeshGearFox wrote:
B) Reading the dictionary in your free time might work too.
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I think most learners would get more out of just reading (books, newspapers, etc) in their free time, instead of going through dictionaries. Context is a huge part of vocab acquisition, and perhaps an even greater part of vocab retention.
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6676 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 27 of 29 23 October 2007 at 2:09pm | IP Logged |
I agree it make no sense to learn a dictionary by rote. Those are freak exhibitions for marketing purposes.
Remember the question thread:
MeshGearFox wrote:
This is the intersection of two things I've heard lately:
A) Writing is the best way to retain vocabulary.
B) Reading the dictionary in your free time might work too.
So, let's say you have a dictionary. Your goal is to pick a page and note every single word on that page. Then, you have to write, say, a short composition using each of those words. Any thoughts on this? |
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If you can write an interesting and meaningful story with the vocabulary in your target language, it can be very useful.
If you find a native who proofread your text and read it for you, much better. You learn to write,you learn vocabulary, you receive feedback (proofreading) and you listen the audio.
I am thinking we can use this training here. The multilanguage forum can be a place to start.
Edited by slucido on 23 October 2007 at 2:14pm
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6676 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 28 of 29 26 October 2007 at 11:01am | IP Logged |
MeshGearFox wrote:
This is the intersection of two things I've heard lately:
A) Writing is the best way to retain vocabulary.
B) Reading the dictionary in your free time might work too.
So, let's say you have a dictionary. Your goal is to pick a page and note every single word on that page. Then, you have to write, say, a short composition using each of those words. Any thoughts on this? |
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I forgot I find useful to work writing and reading phrasebooks and their little dictionaries. I think that make more sense than using standard dictionaries.
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| Jenne Newbie United States Joined 6707 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Italian, Spanish, Arabic (Written), Latin, French
| Message 29 of 29 26 October 2007 at 1:40pm | IP Logged |
I've been doing something like this lately. With Italian, I've been challenging myself to write a short diary entry every day in Italian. I compare it to free-writing, so I don't correct it or anything... it's just to get myself thinking in another language.
With French, I have a First Thousand Words in French picture dictionary, which I chose because it has no English. (I have the same thing in German, Italian, and Arabic, and need to get one for Spanish.) The words are arranged thematically and each page includes a giant picture for the learner to try to make up stories about.
Listening and reading comprehension are really easy for me, but thinking, speaking, and writing are much harder, so exercises like the ones in this thread are ideal for me.
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