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Sprachprofi
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 Message 1 of 49
01 February 2008 at 8:28am | IP Logged 
I stumbled upon an interesting new method, a target-language-only method for beginners that relies on reading mostly and doesn't need many pictures. What I find particularly interesting is that using this method you would just read on and on, without the need for much repetition, exercises or grammar study. However, I haven't yet found an example of it in a language that I don't speak at all, so I couldn't test this method myself.

Could you do me a favour and test it? Since I don't want to breach any copyright, I created an own sample text at http://www.learnlangs.com/esperanto/test.html , along with questions. Please try it and then answer the following questions:
- how much of the text did you understand?
- how did you feel while reading? Was it quick and fun or was it tiring and slow?
- how many questions did you answer correctly?
- did you have any previous knowledge that would have helped you?
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aru-aru
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 Message 2 of 49
01 February 2008 at 9:54am | IP Logged 
1. All of it
2. Extremely quick. I read it only once at a fast pace. It was easy to understand.
3. 10 out of 12 (the esto/estas/esti questions i did not get right)
4. In esperanto? No. I've been dabbig in Spanish a bit lately, though.

I really liked the method. Repetition, exercises and grammar study are my least favourite things in language learning.
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rob
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 Message 3 of 49
01 February 2008 at 10:02am | IP Logged 
This sounded interesting so I gave it a quick go:

1. I understood about 95% of the text I'd say... it's pretty clear what everything means from context and only took a little thinking about.

2. I thought "Esperanto really *is* easy, but I'd comlpletely confuse it with French and when I start on Spanish!". I found it to be quick, but repetitive, in perhaps not such a great way. I did find the amount of repetition already put into the exercise to be good for exposure to the words. But personally I prefer reading a longer text and repeating it myself over reading a repetitive text - but I can see very easily that it would help the words stick. And as you say, you could pretty much read through it once then move on to the next text.

3. I got 7/12 - perhaps it wasn't so easy after all!

4. No previous knowledge of Esperanto. Low intermediate level French. Some understanding of *very* basic Spanish.

Hope that feedback helps!

Edited by rob on 01 February 2008 at 10:04am

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 Message 4 of 49
01 February 2008 at 10:17am | IP Logged 
1 - I understood all of it.
2 - Quick and fun. (I'm a fast reader and just read the text once)
3 - All of them.
4 - I have previous knowledge of Esperanto (the six weeks challenge, but haven't done much since)

Edited by jeff_lindqvist on 01 February 2008 at 10:18am

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 Message 5 of 49
01 February 2008 at 10:23pm | IP Logged 
1. close to 100%
2. quick and fun
3. only 3 (how embarassing)
4. I'm "fluent" in Spanish.
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 Message 6 of 49
02 February 2008 at 4:01am | IP Logged 
I scored well on all counts but I have been learning Esperanto.

This is very similar to my first lessons in Russian. I thought the method was so good I inflicted it on all my family and they were all able to read and speak the Russian of the first few lessons. I think the Russians have done a lot with this kind of language teaching.
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Alkeides
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 Message 8 of 49
02 February 2008 at 6:17am | IP Logged 
Ah, you came upon Lingua Latina? Lingua Latina was actually first published in the 1950s, I believe the direct method was relatively in common use from the beginning of the 20th century till at least WWII before production of new books in the technique trickled to a stop by the 60s when audio-lingual techniques like FSI arose.


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