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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6553 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 17 of 49 02 February 2008 at 6:35pm | IP Logged | ||
It may be an excellent way to teach similar languages, but I think this method wouldn't work at all for languages that are drastically different. It seems to be designed for similar languages; seems like there have to be many "hints" to work. Can you imagine a language with a different script working? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Andy_Liu Triglot Senior Member Hong Kong leibby.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6789 days ago 255 posts - 257 votes Speaks: Mandarin, Cantonese*, EnglishC2 Studies: French | Message 18 of 49 03 February 2008 at 12:12am | IP Logged | ||
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1. All of it
2. Very quick. I read it only once. 3. 11 out of 12 (I got wrong in the last, unfortunately) 4. I've learnt Esperanto for around 2 dozens of hours several months ago and I can still remember a smattering of the grammar (such as the question about 'esti'); a smattering of French grammar ('en'), profound knowledge of English, knowledge of the people depicted (if you show historical figures instead, things would be different - more difficult) Unfortunately, while I shall be a correspondent of more "exotic" linguistic background, I, too, know a lot of English (without which I wouldn't be posting here). A test in Russian or Japanese or Hindi would certainly be more challenging and yield surprising results. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Alkeides Senior Member Bhutan Joined 6151 days ago 636 posts - 644 votes | Message 19 of 49 03 February 2008 at 1:31am | IP Logged | ||
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This method would be a lot more difficult to implement for Japanese and Chinese because of their writing systems, but I believe it's still possible. Just that more pictures would have to be used in the beginning.
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6473 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 20 of 49 03 February 2008 at 3:34am | IP Logged | ||
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I think it might not work until people have learned the foreign alphabet (for which there are other good methods like http://www.learnlangs.com/RWP/Korean). However, it should still be possible to teach a non-related language like this. You might need to provide a map of the world though if words for "Europe", "Asia" and the like are significantly different - or you need to select the countries & words chosen more carefully. The Latin course doesn't progress nearly as fast as I did for that sample.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6600 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 21 of 49 03 February 2008 at 4:17am | IP Logged | ||
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I've tried that for Finnish ;) The toughest part that many place names are not very recognizable.
Suomi on Euroopassa. Pariisi on Euroopassa. Onko Pariisi Suomessa? Ei, Pariisi ei ole Suomessa. Se on Ranskassa. Onko Helsinki kaupunki? Kyllä, Helsinki on kaupunki. Pariisikin on kaupunki. Mutta Ranska ei ole kaupunki. Se on maa. Onko Suomikin maa? Kyllä, Suomikin on maa. Tukholma on Ruotsissa. Onko Göteborgkin Ruotsissa? Kyllä, Göteborg on Ruotsissa. On kaksi Göteborg-nimistä kaupunkia: toinen on Ruotsissa ja toinen USA:ssa. * Onko Espanja Euroopassa? Kyllä, Espanja on Euroopassa. Onko Saksa Aasiassa? Ei, Saksa ei ole Aasiassa. Kuten Espanja ja Suomi, Saksa on Euroopassa. Onko Venäjäkin Euroopassa? Kyllä, toinen osa Venäjää on Euroopassa, mutta toinen osa on Aasiassa. Onko Kiina Euroopassa? Ei, Kiina ei ole Euroopassa. Kiina on Aasiassa. Onko Turkkikin Aasiassa? Kyllä, Turkki on Aasiassa, mutta kuten Venäjä, Turkki on sekä Euroopassa että Aasiassa. Questions: 1. On/Onko Berliini/Berliinikin Saksassa? 2. Egypti on sekä Afrikassa että/ja Aasiassa. Toinen osa Egyptissä/Egyptiä on Afrikassa ja toinen osa on Aasiassa. 3. Onko Pietari Aasia/Aasiassa? 4. Moskova on Euroopassa. Onko Pietari/Pietarikin Euroopassa? Kyllä, mutta/kuten Moskova ja Berliini, Pietari on Euroopassa. 5. Onko Lontoo Espanjassa? Ei, Lontoo on/ei on/ei ole Espanjassa. Lontoo on/onko Englannissa. ANSWERS: 1. Onko, Berliini 2. että, Egyptiä 3. Aasiassa 4. Pietarikin, kuten (Pietari is also correct but rather illogical here.) 5. ei ole, on *I first wrote "On kaksi Göteborgia", but now that sounds wrong to me:/ Edited by Serpent on 03 February 2008 at 10:28am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6473 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 22 of 49 03 February 2008 at 4:30am | IP Logged | ||
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I got 7 right / 2 mistakes in the Finnish one, but I found the text quite hard to understand, e. g. I still don't know what "Venäjää", "toinen" or "osa" means, and "sekä" took me several reads to figure out. I think it might be partly due to the text though, since the other texts of this method don't go as quickly from 3-word sentences to 11-word sentences and try to repeat the vocabulary more.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6600 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 23 of 49 03 February 2008 at 4:55am | IP Logged | ||
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I've edited it - is it better now? :)
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6442 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 24 of 49 03 February 2008 at 6:34am | IP Logged | ||
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The uncertainties in the place names, combined with the relatively low amount of repetition, prevented me from figuring out a number of the constructs. I got both parts of the first right, both parts of the second wrong, the third right, the first part of the second wrong and the second part right (but it was a guess), and the 5th seems to have a mistake in the question or answer key.
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