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| ProfArguelles Moderator United States foreignlanguageexper Joined 7259 days ago 609 posts - 2102 votes  | Message 9 of 38 30 March 2008 at 10:14pm | IP Logged |
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My plan is to systematically go through everything I have studied, at least in some sense or another, first and foremost (some three score tongues), then to present a lesser selection of the others languages for which I at least have samples in my collection (another equal number). I seem to be getting the hang of the filming process, so I hope to be able to manage several languages a week in the near future...
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| Marc Frisch Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6668 days ago 1001 posts - 1169 votes Speaks: German*, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Persian, Tamil | Message 10 of 38 09 April 2008 at 5:14pm | IP Logged |
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Thank you very much for the new video, it's interesting as usual. I am looking forward to the next videos. Having been to South Africa recently, I'd like to make two comments on your pronunciation of certain diphtongs:
-'y' is not pronounced like German 'ei' any more, but like English 'ay' as in 'play' -'ui' in 'uit' is pronounced like the French 'oeil' 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Talairan Tetraglot Senior Member Spain Joined 6595 days ago 194 posts - 258 votes Speaks: Afrikaans, English*, Gypsy/Romani, Dutch Studies: Spanish, Flemish, Galician, Aramaic | Message 11 of 38 10 April 2008 at 1:11pm | IP Logged |
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Further to Marc Frisch's comments, I would say that the ui in "uit" is pronounced more like the 'ay' in "play" -almost but not quite, (the IPA symbol, I believe, is /œy/) at least in the Afrikaans I learnt (KwaZulu Natal). I don't know French, so am unsure of the pronunciation of 'oeil', IPA anyone? The final -g in "gesig" is not a devoiced /g/ but rather a /x/. Overall, I would say that the pronunciation of the Afrikaans in the video is like someone who knows Dutch trying to pronounce Afrikaans according to Dutch orthographic rules. I have a similar problem when speaking Dutch- my accent tends to dip into Afrikaans.
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| Russianbear Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6778 days ago 358 posts - 422 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, Ukrainian Studies: Spanish | Message 12 of 38 11 April 2008 at 10:30am | IP Logged |
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Personally, I found the Afrikaans video the most interesting of the language videos so far - probably, because of the relative obscurity of the language. While I've had some exposure to German and even the Dutch, it is the first time that I got a glimpse of Afrikaans.
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| ProfArguelles Moderator United States foreignlanguageexper Joined 7259 days ago 609 posts - 2102 votes | Message 13 of 38 13 April 2008 at 6:16pm | IP Logged |
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Mr. Frisch et al., thank you very much for the input on Afrikaans diphthongs, which I will try to remember and implement the next time I find myself actually speaking Afrikaans.
“Russianbear,” I am attempting to make these videos to do just what you say you appreciate—give people glimpses of languages they may never have seen before. Indeed, just now I added a video for Frisian. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Makrasiroutioun Quadrilingual Heptaglot Senior Member Canada infowars.com Joined 6109 days ago 210 posts - 236 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Armenian*, Romanian*, Latin, German, Italian Studies: Dutch, Swedish, Turkish, Japanese, Russian, Arabic (Written) | Message 14 of 38 13 April 2008 at 10:18pm | IP Logged |
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Yes it is, unless the sch cluster is followed by an R, in which case it tends to be pronounced like "skr-".
That was a fine video for Frisian, Professor. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| qklilx Moderator United States Joined 6189 days ago 459 posts - 477 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean Personal Language Map | Message 15 of 38 14 April 2008 at 2:25pm | IP Logged |
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Professor, your video on Frisian was very enlightening, and the language itself sounds very appealing to me, moreso than many European languages I've heard. Perhaps one day I will have the opportunity to study and use it.
May I make a suggestion regarding your YouTube account, by the way? As your number of videos increases on the site, I have noticed that referring back to the older editions of your series has become difficult due to the long titles, both starting with the word "language." May I suggest looking into making a pair of playlists on your account in the future? One of "Languages of the World," and one for "Language Learning Review." This would make it easier to view your work and would provide a higher level of organization. If you like, one of the other members or myself can provide you with a short tutorial on how to do this. - Evan 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Marc Frisch Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6668 days ago 1001 posts - 1169 votes Speaks: German*, French, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, Italian Studies: Persian, Tamil | Message 16 of 38 14 April 2008 at 4:39pm | IP Logged |
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I really enjoyed watching this video, I had never seen or heard Frisian before, but after your explanations I immediately understood the phrases you read. A very exciting experience! I am wondering if this is just because I know German, English, and some Swedish, or because I was exposed to Dutch and Luxembourgish on a regular basis in my childhood (Luxembourgish is actually my mother's native language). In any case, after watching this video I really feel like studying some more Germanic languages in the future. It must be very gratifying to know a whole language family, and given my linguistic background I am sure that I could achieve this with the Germanic family.
By the way, have you ever studied Luxembourgish? I have never seen study materials for it, not even in Luxemburg, but it is an official language in Luxemburg and has about 300.000 to 400.000 speakers in Luxemburg and Germany. From a linguistic point of view, it is very interesting, as it is the only Central German language that is an official language of a country, and as such is a link language between High German languages such as German and Low German languages (Dutch, Frisian). 1 person has voted this message useful |
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