Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6014 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 73 of 129 08 February 2009 at 4:43am | IP Logged |
slucido wrote:
The problem is not to find a secret method to learn languages. The problem is to find more motivation, passion and time in order to interact massively with L2. |
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No.
Although it's been said,
many times,
many ways,
You Need Both.
It's far easier to learn in a structured way, but regardless of what that structure is, after the very earliest stages you need to spend more time outside the "classroom" that in it, whether it's a real classroom or just your kitchen table.
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slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6678 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 75 of 129 08 February 2009 at 6:26am | IP Logged |
Cainntear wrote:
slucido wrote:
The problem is not to find a secret method to learn languages. The problem is to find more motivation, passion and time in order to interact massively with L2. |
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It's far easier to learn in a structured way, but regardless of what that structure is, after the very earliest stages you need to spend more time outside the "classroom" that in it, whether it's a real classroom or just your kitchen table. |
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It's far easier to learn in a structured way depending on the person's preferences.
If you work with Michael Thomas, Pimsleur, Assimil or FSI and you get bored to the bones... and you give up, these structured methods are useless for you.
The problem is not about what "structured way" is better or what "comprehensible input-output" method is better, the problem is about how to develop enough motivation and passion (intensity and time) to do the language task.
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slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6678 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 77 of 129 08 February 2009 at 3:28pm | IP Logged |
blackdiamond wrote:
I can't believe this argument is still ongoing. Give it a rest guys. I'm getting "bored to the bones."
(P.S.: slucido is wrong!)
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NO, Blackdiamond is absolutely wrrrooooooooooooooongggggg...
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Jar-ptitsa Triglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5901 days ago 980 posts - 1006 votes Speaks: French*, Dutch, German
| Message 78 of 129 08 February 2009 at 3:33pm | IP Logged |
This thread is the most boring one of the entire forum.
Slucido, you're a robot which repeats three million times exactly the same thing.
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slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6678 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 79 of 129 08 February 2009 at 3:54pm | IP Logged |
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
This thread is the most boring one of the entire forum.
Slucido, you're a robot which repeats three million times exactly the same thing. |
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Every now and again it's important to repeat the truth.
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6014 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 80 of 129 08 February 2009 at 4:19pm | IP Logged |
Jar-ptitsa wrote:
Slucido, you're a robot which repeats three million times exactly the same thing. |
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Ah, but you see, that's reinforcing the desired behavior.
Sorry. I shouldn't let him wind me up. Particularly as this thread was actually starting to deal with some proper meaty issues....
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