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Mutual Intelligibility in Slavic Language | ||
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| Sennin Senior Member Bulgaria Joined 6025 days ago 1457 posts - 1759 votes  5 sounds | Message 9 of 63 18 March 2010 at 2:35am | IP Logged | ||
Actually I believe урод means freak in Russian. But there are other false friends like грозный which means scary in Russian and грозен, ugly in Bulgarian. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Delodephius Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 5394 days ago 342 posts - 501 votes Speaks: Slovak*, Serbo-Croatian*, EnglishC1, Czech Studies: Russian, Japanese | Message 10 of 63 18 March 2010 at 10:11am | IP Logged | ||
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In Slovak úroda means yield or bounty.
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| Kubelek Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland chomikuj.pl/Kuba_wal Joined 6843 days ago 415 posts - 528 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishC2, French, Spanish Studies: German | Message 11 of 63 18 March 2010 at 10:19am | IP Logged | ||
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... which looks like Polish urodzaj which means the same thing :)
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| Siberiano Tetraglot Senior Member Russian Federation one-giant-leap.Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6484 days ago 465 posts - 696 votes Speaks: Russian*, English, ItalianC1, Spanish Studies: Portuguese, Serbian | Message 12 of 63 18 March 2010 at 8:29pm | IP Logged | ||
urodzaj - урожай (harvest, yield) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| dantalian Diglot Senior Member Bouvet Island Joined 5673 days ago 125 posts - 156 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German | Message 13 of 63 18 March 2010 at 10:34pm | IP Logged | ||
Here is the sentence «I can eat glass, it does not hurt me» :) in 11 Slavic languages (I hope there are no mistakes in the them) Russian. Я могу есть стекло, оно мне не вредит. Ukrainian Я можу їсти шкло, й воно мені не пошкодить. Belarusian. Я магу есці шкло, яно мне не шкодзіць. Croatian. Ja mogu jesti staklo i ne boli me. Serbian. Могу јести стакло а да ми не шкоди. Macedonian. Можам да јадам стакло, а не ме штета. Bulgarian. Мога да ям стъкло, то не ми вреди. Czech. Mohu jíst sklo, neublíží mi. Slovak. Môžem jesť sklo. Nezraní ma. Polish. ; Mogę jeść szkło i mi nie szkodzi. Slovenian. Lahko jem steklo, ne da bi mi škodovalo. I personally can understand it in full and with virtually no effort only in the Croatian language and actually cannot understand it in Polish. In Serbian, Ukrainian and Bulgarian the difficulty is only one word. As to the false friends, some of them can be found in the crosstabs: http://ru.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ложные_друзья_сл �виста (Some are extremely funny. :)) So, all in all, slavic languages are not that easy for a Russian and at times really seem all that different. You should read "слависта" instead of "сл� �виста" Edited by dantalian on 18 March 2010 at 10:35pm 10 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Aineko Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 5439 days ago 238 posts - 442 votes Speaks: Serbian*, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Mandarin | Message 14 of 63 19 March 2010 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks for the informative post! just one small thing:
actually, in Serbian you would say: "Mogu da jedem staklo a da mi ne škodi" (while Croatian use infinitive of the verb quite often in examples like this, Serbian does it very rarely - although both are grammatically correct and perfectly understandable for Serbs and Croats). consequence, I guess, is that 'jedem' would further confuse Russian speaker, because conjugation ending for 'I' in Serbian is same like for 'We' in Russian :). 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| dantalian Diglot Senior Member Bouvet Island Joined 5673 days ago 125 posts - 156 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German | Message 15 of 63 20 March 2010 at 8:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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Aineko, thanks for your correction! It is so easy to plunge into mistakes if you borrow data from external sources.
Actually the word 'jedem' could be misleading not only because of its conjugation ending, but also since it looks like a real false friend meaning in Russian «едем»: (we are) riding/moving. Since my quickest association in Russian for the word škodi is «шкодить» (play mischievous / mean tricks (on) -coll.) the whole phrase "Mogu da jedem staklo a da mi ne škodi" can be easily transformed in my head into something like that: «We can ride on the glass to play mischievous tricks». So, I agree here with you that the renewed Serbian variant of the sentence would further confuse Russian speaker. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| 1qaz2wsx Diglot Groupie Greece Joined 5364 days ago 98 posts - 124 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Albanian | Message 16 of 63 20 March 2010 at 10:42pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have serious doubts about the mutual intelligibility between slavic languages.Maybe in a very basic level you can pick up some words or even some small phrases.But true mutual intelligibility,it seems,is way far from that.Even for native speakers.
I was once in Bulgaria and I,more or less, was able to get by with my russian.But I noticed the elderly could understand me a lot better because they had apparrently studied russian at school during the communist era.Most of the people of young age simply could not understand me.During my stay there I came across a 25 year-old girl in a shop who could not understand a simple question in russian:Kогда открывается ресторан рядом?And my russian pronounciation is fairly well. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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