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parasitius
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09 May 2011 at 11:53pm | IP Logged 
学粤语和普通话的有福啦 给你们介绍一个很好的办法

I just found this yesterday out of frustration that Baidu.com's music section still is
garbage, 7 years no change.

Go to http://mp3.sogou.com/ and click 打开在线播放器. There are a ton of STREAMING Chinese
songs (TOP 100 and more) that automatically show the lyrics scroll down the window
while the song plays -- a cursor follows the lyrics! At work it is great. I keep it on
the second screen, and sometime when I wonder what they are saying -- I just look over
for 2 seconds at the characters under the cursor. Totally effortless study!

It is better still if you 登录 an account, as then every time you like a song you can
add it to your favorites playlist.

Edited by parasitius on 09 May 2011 at 11:54pm

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10 June 2011 at 11:17am | IP Logged 
I got a question about songs' role in learning pronounciation.When we sing Chinese songs, we don't follow the tone of each character, instead, melody has replaced the tones, many Chinese learners may sing Chinese songs well, but they easily mess up tones. So how do songs help you learn Chinese? Thanks:)
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10 June 2011 at 12:34pm | IP Logged 
colorcollar wrote:
I got a question about songs' role in learning pronounciation.When we sing Chinese songs, we don't follow the tone of each character, instead, melody has replaced the tones, many Chinese learners may sing Chinese songs well, but they easily mess up tones. So how do songs help you learn Chinese? Thanks:)


Correction:
When we sing Mandarin songs, we don't follow the tone of each character, instead, melody has replaced the tones, many Mandarin learners may sing Mandarin songs well, but they easily mess up tones.

The above does not hold true for Cantonese, where melody and tones must correspond. Of course, Cantonese songs have a different problem, which is that the songs are generally written in Mandarin, sung with Cantonese pronunciation, so you'll get the tones, but not the grammar and vocabulary.

This means that songs are not an ideal learning resource for Mandarin or Cantonese, but it is still of some use. The great advantage of them is that you can listen to them again and again without getting tired of them, and it helps you reinforce words and structures, even if you don't get the tones (Mandarin), or it helps you with pronunciation of characters, even if you don't get the right words or grammar (Cantonese).

The solution for me is rap music. This will solve the tone problem with Mando music, as rap will preserve the tones, as well as the language problem in Canto, as rap tends to still be written in Cantonese. And sometimes you can find a song that's actually written in Cantonese (such as the songs of Sam Hui).
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parasitius
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colorcollar wrote:
I got a question about songs' role in learning pronounciation.When
we sing Chinese songs, we don't follow the tone of each character, instead, melody has
replaced the tones, many Chinese learners may sing Chinese songs well, but they easily
mess up tones. So how do songs help you learn Chinese? Thanks:)


Completely irrelevant to me. I never learned a single tone by listening to speech - I
could never identify tones in rapid speech well enough - instead I had to just memorize
them and produce them when *I* spoke.


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