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| ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4716 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 1 of 8 10 September 2012 at 6:48am | IP Logged | ||
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I often find myself checking out the new programs and language resources my local library
gets in. They just got this in: http://www.amazon.com/Collins-Easy-Learning-French-Noble/dp/ 0007363958/ref=sr_1_1? s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1347168510&sr=1-1&keywords=paul+noble+fr ench Anyone ever use this? It appears to be rather similar to Michel Thomas. I was just going to ask if anyone knew if it could be used while driving and similarly in as large or small of chunks as one wanted like with MT? Or is it best to do at least an entire track at once? It seems rather lengthy compared to MT, but superficially, there appears to be a lot that is similar (at least from the outside. I didn't check it out). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5570 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 2 of 8 10 September 2012 at 10:24am | IP Logged | ||
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If one was being charitable one would say that the Paul Noble course is based on MT - one might also say it
is a rip off - it follows the same grammar translation methodology and covers the same ground as the MT Foundation course but takes into account some people's criticism of the MT approach: there is a native speaker who pronounces the words so you can get native pronunciation, the vocabulary is more aimed at 'holiday' language and there are no live students about to annoy you/learn from (depending on your perspective). In some respects, therefore it bridges the best of MT and Pimsleur. Personally, I would say it is pretty good course for a car/commuter learner to start a language with. I was too far advanced for the French course but I am going to give the German one a try as I am between courses in German. I would recommend following it up with MT Advanced course and Assimil New French with Ease (for what my opinion is worth). Edited by Elexi on 10 September 2012 at 10:25am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| James29 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5380 days ago 1265 posts - 2113 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French | Message 3 of 8 11 September 2012 at 2:33am | IP Logged | ||
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You can listen to fairly extended audio clips of the Paul Noble courses on Audible.com
It is indeed a lot like Michel Thomas, but I think of it as almost a cross between MT and Pimsleur. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Enrico Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 3750 days ago 162 posts - 207 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Italian, Spanish, French | Message 4 of 8 03 September 2014 at 1:21am | IP Logged | ||
I have listened to 8CDs of 12CD of Collins French with Paul Noble I would say it is somewhere around Michel Thomas Foundation course. For me it is more clear and comprehensive because he has a good pronunciation and has not those annoying students. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4716 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 5 of 8 03 September 2014 at 5:37am | IP Logged | ||
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Did you not find it incredibly boring and slow-paced? That is the biggest complaint I
hear. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5570 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 6 of 8 03 September 2014 at 10:54am | IP Logged | ||
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It is slow paced and without personality, but not as slow paced as Pimsleur. I reckon
its a good first course but no more. I got something out of the German course, so I am not complaining. However, in my view, the absence of the students shows how effective they are in the MT courses at getting the listener engaged. I couldn't really get engaged with Paul Noble and the native speaker could have just as easily been a computer for all I cared. Edited by Elexi on 03 September 2014 at 10:55am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Talib Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6666 days ago 171 posts - 205 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (classical) Studies: Arabic (Egyptian) | Message 7 of 8 05 September 2014 at 5:01am | IP Logged | ||
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I get the sense from these comments that MT is more interesting, but I have also read that the Paul Noble course is a little easier and perhaps better for learning pronunciation. I am going to give French another try, so I am thinking about starting with one of these courses. Which one would you recommend? Edited by Talib on 05 September 2014 at 5:02am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5570 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 8 of 8 05 September 2014 at 9:35am | IP Logged | ||
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I would probably go with Paul Noble as an easy introduction, and try and get Michel
Thomas from your local library. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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